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Does Obama's gay advocacy exclude trans

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jun 27. 5 Replies

Betty Bowers on PRIDE

Started by Loren Miller. Last reply by Daniel W Jun 5. 1 Reply

Gay christians.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Gerald Payne May 13. 2 Replies

Boycotting Indiana

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Grinning Cat Apr 12. 12 Replies

Per Right Wing Watch, The Nuts Are Really Coming after the Fruits

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Discrimination by nontheists?

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Comment by Joan Denoo on June 30, 2015 at 2:56pm

If there were a god he/she/it would be giving the same message to each nation on every continent. The imperative would be to live in peace with justice for all. The purpose would be to create a world of people making the decisions in the interest of the health of individuals, tribes, communities, nations, and religions. There would be no fight over doctrine. There would be an emphasis on community building. Voluntary population control would be part of the litany. The focus would be on cleanliness to prevent disease spread and an emphasis on problem-solving and conflict resolution. The highest value would be win/win with each one having a valid right to contribute and consume. 

What does exist seems to be an appetite for the accumulation of wealth and treasure. There are hierarchies that create class systems. 

A participatory structure based on need and availability of food and resources requires discipline to manage. If god existed, he/she/it would guide in setting limits. Sexual appetites based on desire would provide birth control instructions that work. 

If there is no god, any gods, and there is nothing listening or answering prayers, and there is no savior to redeem us, and there is no heaven, hell, nirvana or whatever, then Homo sapiens have to take charge of their lives. Stop depending on imaginary powers to solve problems. 

Begin to think in terms of taking responsibility for ones' safety, security and stability. Provide food for all and teach our children how to be self-sufficient. Provide work in maintaining our infrastructure. Develop strategies for access to life-long education and health care. Create the means to care for elderly through the aging process until death. 

Because there is no god, and Homo sapiens evolved from the great apes, and because Homo sapiens have the ability to see what is real, identify problems, search for options, develop action plans and evaluate progress, we, unlike great apes, can manage our lives. 

Comment by Daniel W on June 29, 2015 at 11:23pm

From taxthechurches.org

The churches and their leaders are morally bankrupt.  It's time to stop supporting them financially.  When churches don't pay taxes, we are supporting them.  Even atheists are supporting them through our tax dollars.

"The next time Congress is looking for an extra couple billion to finance a war, tell them to look no further than an income tax on religious payroll. Better yet, tell them today, and let them know you intend to VOTE accordingly"

Comment by Grinning Cat on June 29, 2015 at 11:09pm

"Change cannot possibly happen." So the followers of Jesus, or, rather, the followers-on who told stories about him and started a religion, had no business changing the clear knowledge of everything good and right and holy that came before! /s

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on June 23, 2015 at 3:40pm

LoL sk8ey cat, on “I wonder if the churches will ever be as financially bankrupt as they are morally.  (Then all the land they own could be put to better use, for one thing.)”

Enjoyed your video, Loren!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 23, 2015 at 2:39pm

Change means leaving behind old rules that define who one is, what one's purpose in life is, and how one should think and act, even if the thoughts and actions do not fulfill the needs of the individual or the family. 

Change? What? No god? No angels? No Jesus? No heaven or hell? No obedience or submission? No morals? No rules? No bible? 

Who can a religious person trust if he or she can't trust in the words of the holy or the beliefs of the ancestors? 

Change means having to find the difference between right and wrong for oneself. It means there is no god to hear prayers or no Jesus to save. If he or she has no one or thing in which to put one's faith, how is one to know how to act, what to think, how to love, who to hate? 

Change means not having dominion over wives and children for men and not having a husband or father to control one's life for women. 

Change to what? Chaos? Disorder? Anarchy? Turmoil?  A woman cannot possibly allow that to happen; A man cannot permit it.

After all, the bible is holy! God exists and judges! Jesus sacrificed himself for others! Tradition maintains order! Change cannot possibly happen.  

Comment by Loren Miller on June 23, 2015 at 2:16pm

Would someone care
For a breath of fresh air?



There ... and I don't even use Tylenol.

Comment by sk8eycat on June 19, 2015 at 9:30pm

There sure are a lot of nekkid emperors still parading around!  I wonder if the churches will ever be as financially bankrupt as they are morally.  (Then all the land they own could be put to better use, for one thing.)

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 19, 2015 at 7:40pm

It is the hypocrisy that amazes me. I guess I am still a naive girl who believes priests and police keep us safe. ye gads! How foolish my thoughts.  

Telling the truth, out loud, so others can hear me, is not the bad thing I learned as a child. "If you can't say something nice about someone don't say anything!" 

That is just plain bullshit! Another "truism" bites the dust. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 19, 2015 at 6:00pm

Former Archbishop of St. Paul, John Nienstedt, as is the wont of those fun-loving Catholics, metastasized hypocrisy into an art form by a.) spending $800K of the Catholics'  cash in the attempt to squelch marriage equality in Minnesota and b.) repeatedly coercing priests into having sex with him. I guess for the Catholics sauce for the goose ain't nothin like sauce for the gander.

Comment by Daniel W on June 18, 2015 at 8:44pm
You're all much more optimistic about people than I am. I can't get out of my head the idea that it's just scapegoating and clannishness. So many people just need the demonizable "other" to crucify. And the scape goat - "I'm not perfect but at least I'm not one of those disgusting perverts" and then make up more evils, so the demonized other is even more vile, justifying the hatred.
 

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