LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


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Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 27, 2017 at 11:05am

Justice Dept. Weighs In Against Protections for Gays in the Workplace


The Department of Justice has filed court papers arguing that a major federal civil rights law does not protect employees from discrimination based on sexual orientation in a case now being considered by a New York appeals court.

The department’s decision to file a brief in the case was a rare example of top officials in Washington weighing in on gay rights in what is an important but essentially private dispute between a worker and his boss. Civil rights advocates criticized the filing not only for its arguments, but also for having been made on the same day that President Trump announced on Twitter that transgender people would be banned from serving in the military.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 25, 2017 at 5:01pm

There's an excellent book on this, Galileo's Middle Finger by Alice Dreger. Amazon's blurb:

An impassioned defense of intellectual freedom and a clarion call to intellectual responsibility, Galileo’s Middle Finger is one American’s eye-opening story of life in the trenches of scientific controversy. For two decades, historian Alice Dreger has led a life of extraordinary engagement, combining activist service to victims of unethical medical research with defense of scientists whose work has outraged identity politics activists. With spirit and wit, Dreger offers in Galileo’s Middle Finger an unforgettable vision of the importance of rigorous truth seeking in today’s America, where both the free press and free scholarly inquiry struggle under dire economic and political threats. This illuminating chronicle begins with Dreger’s own research into the treatment of people born intersex (once called hermaphrodites). Realization of the shocking surgical and ethical abuses conducted in the name of “normalizing” intersex children’s gender identities moved Dreger to become an internationally recognized patient rights activist. But even as the intersex rights movement succeeded, Dreger began to realize how some fellow progressive activists were employing lies and personal attacks to silence scientists whose data revealed uncomfortable truths about humans. In researching one such case, Dreger suddenly became the target of just these kinds of attacks. Troubled, she decided to try to understand more—to travel the country to ferret out the truth behind various controversies, to obtain a global view of the nature and costs of these battles. Galileo’s Middle Finger describes Dreger’s long and harrowing journeys between the two camps for which she felt equal empathy: social justice activists determined to win and researchers determined to put hard truths before comfort. Ultimately what emerges is a lesson about the intertwining of justice and of truth—and a lesson of the importance of responsible scholars and journalists to our fragile democracy.
Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 25, 2017 at 4:06pm

Daniel, one of the big problems with people is that they think in such binary, black and white terms.  People are lazy thinkers, and when a subject falls outside their preconceived parameters, they shut down and dismiss it.  This is why these types of complex issues fester for so long without due recognition and discussion.  People don't like thinking outside their comfort zone.  In the meantime, the affected group needlessly suffers.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on July 25, 2017 at 3:06pm

Daniel, thanks for the comments. I had no idea 1.7% of people were born intersexed.

Comment by Loren Miller on July 25, 2017 at 2:40pm

It seems to me that the whole business of indiscriminately removing healthy testes on children whose physiology may be sexually indeterminate needs to be STOPPED ... and ANY intervention, especially with sexually immature subjects needs to be thought through and examined one hell of a lot more thoroughly than it has been to date.

On top of that, it's well past time that data on intersexed individuals needs to be gathered so that a better understanding of their physical and psychological needs can be developed and promulgated to the medical community.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 25, 2017 at 2:19pm

I may have posted this video before but I'm not sure.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on July 24, 2017 at 10:25pm

Worship A Gay Martyr At The Oscar Wilde Temple


Lovers of Oscar Wilde will have soon a proper place to worship the iconic Irish wit and writer.

Artist duo David McDermott and Peter McGough, better known as McDermott & McGough, will unveil the Oscar Wilde Temple, a public installation two decades in the making, in New York this fall.

Presented in collaboration with the New York LGBT Center and the Church of the Village, the installation will combine painting, sculpture, and site-specific elements designed to transport visitors back to the time of Wilde’s 1882-83 visit to America.


Comment by Plinius on July 21, 2017 at 2:23am

You're right, Daniel, friends and partners come in all shapes and colours. The only people that truly disgust me are immoral people, but that's perhaps a sign of growing older. 

Comment by The Flying Atheist on July 20, 2017 at 10:57pm

I'm not sure which is worse:  people like Mr. Root harboring those pathetic thoughts in the first place, or believing it's OK to say them publicly.  Either way, he's contributing to what's wrong with this world...bigly.   

Comment by Loren Miller on July 20, 2017 at 8:29pm

Bertold, I enjoy the sight of a good-looking woman as much as the next guy.  As it comes to news, though, as I said, I expect CONTENT and COMPETENCE.

Side note: for being 75, Lesley Stahl looks pretty damned good from where I sit, though that's a total non-sequitur, really.


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