LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends


LGBTQI atheists, nontheists, and friends

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Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 16, 2013 at 9:46pm

Here's an uplifting and inspirational story:

Two Men Marry in First Gay Traditional African Ceremony

Edge Publications

Two gay South African men recently got married in what is believed to be one of the first gay marriages under the Zulu and Tswana traditions.

The ceremony for Tshepo Cameron Modisane and Thoba Calvin Sithol, both 27, took place on April 7 in the town of KwaDukuza in KwaZulu-Natal, in front of 200 guests.

"We see no reason to hide in darkness as if there is something to be ashamed about. Our marriage is largely symbolic and a sign that black gay men can commit and build family through a happy and loving marriage," he said.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 15, 2013 at 3:38pm

As marriage equality plows forcibly forward here in the U.S., I think I'm even more amazed at how quickly it is advancing in other countries all around the world.  It's quite gratifying to see such steady progress internationally as well.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 12, 2013 at 1:49pm

Wow, how cool is that, to see yourself in that story?!  You have obviously affected an untold number of people in a positive way.  My hat's off to you!

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on April 12, 2013 at 1:23pm

That was a very interesting presentation, I even got a surprise to see myself in it as I was in the clip where Lisa Lyng visited St Louis to interview us on the OWN programme.  The world is beginning to come around but there are still a lot of ignorant people who shout "It's against Gods plan" and I am sure we both are of the same opinion about that BS.  I shout back that Jesus was gay and he hung around with 12 blokes.  The best part is that a lot of parents are helping rather than throwing their kids out.  I was not thrown out but I had a poor family life with a father who complained "oh well we got stuck with a homo.  and he had no intrest if I lived or not. Mother was under his thumb.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 12, 2013 at 12:44pm

Chrissie, thanks for sharing your story.  It is, indeed, interesting.  Our ancient historical origins that pervade Middle-Eastern societies must have been a fascinating background in which to live.  

I'm happy to hear you presently say, "Life is good."  I know gender transitions are not easy.  You're very lucky to have had an understanding wife all those years.  

Coincidentally, last night on our local PBS television news/arts program, Chicago Tonight, they aired a wonderful segment on a new Children's gender clinic here in Chicago.  It's part of the Lurie Children's Hospital (the recent new name of the former Children's Memorial Hospital.)

Here's the link for all to see:  

Chicago Tonight: Children's Gender Clinic Video       

I'm glad to see young children getting the proper support that they need.

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on April 12, 2013 at 8:25am

As I think most kow I am a MTF transsexual and spent my first 76 years as a male.  I went to Oman in 72 shortly after Qaboos overthrew his father and opened up a country that had been closed to outsiders for centurys.  I got to see how the old men who wrote the Bible really were because that was the state of the country when I arrived.  There was a total of 37 K of roads in the whole country and I travelled to villages who had never seen a white man or a car (Land Rover)

I had been recruited for the tiny Sultan of Omans Air Force working through Airwork Services Ltd. of Bournmouth UK and wound up as CEO.  During the 5 years I was with the Air Force it grew from 3 Vickers Viscounts and a handfull of Jet Provost trainers converted to fighters.  The country was at war with Chineese and Russian trained forces operating in Yemen.  At the time I moved on we had grown to 3 BAC 1=11 transports and the air force had aircraft in the 100s including the British/French Jaguar fighters and the largest fleet of Skyvans in the world 16,  When I arrived most Officers in the three armed forces were European or Aussies and all told about 40 in total.  A number were seconded from the British Armed Forces but I was contract.  After the war was over I left and did a short trip to Nigeria but it did not last. The Nigerian Army Sucks, what can I say. 

I went back to Oman and took over a large Engineering Co. owned by HH Sayid Thuwainy Bin Shihab. the Sultans uncle, #2 and Gov. of the Capital Muscat.  My Wife and I left Oman in 87 and sold our home in UK and came to US to be near our daughter.

I lost My Wife in 03 to Cancer after 45 years. Then after loosing the only person who knew of my strong doll collecting female interior I was lost.  In early 08 I gave in and started my transition and thanks to Marci Bowers I completed it in Sept. 09. 

Life is good, I have given up all the "Boy Toys" the Bentley, the 46 Ercoupe and hanger and am now a very contented 79 YO Lesbian Female with a large doll collection and driving a Jetta.

So that's me, most say "how exciting" but it was a way of getting by in a life that never fit.  I have to admit that I was very lucky to be able to hide the true self and make a decent living income which most like me are unable to do.  I would have never been able to do it without my Linda.  At home we were just a pair of girlfriends and it worked. Now it's just me and my little dog.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 12, 2013 at 1:38am

Chrissie, if you don't mind me asking, can you tell us a little about your time in Oman?  What brought you there and what type of work did you do?  I see you have a background as an aeronautical engineer.  You sound like a very interesting lady.  :) 

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on April 11, 2013 at 5:51pm

I have never seen it spelled out as clearly as that but it has been quite obvious in a number of homophobes that I have run into.  I lived and worked for 13 years in Oman and for some of that time I was employed by the Sultan's Uncle who was No2 in the family.  In Oman homosexuality is a prisonable offense yet Sultan Qaboose, The ruler is very Gay.  The uncle said to me several times "He never make Heir, You don't make babys with boy friends".  When you look at so many arguments against gay marriage they make no sense.  What is the percentage of people who get married and considering all ages how many of them could produce children even if they wanted to.  Of course we all know that it will destroy every hetro marriage in an instant.  I don't quite understand how that works because about half of them destroy them on their own without gay help. We have all heard that the Law is an Ass and our lawmakers prove it every day.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on April 11, 2013 at 2:07pm

Chrissie, here's a link to a Psychology Today article that speaks to the issue of homophobes and anti-gay sentiment: 

Are Homophobic People Really Gay and Not Accepting It?

A series of studies recently published in the prestigious Journal of Personality and Social Psychology found higher levels of homophobia in individuals with unacknowledged attractions to the same sex, particularly when they grew up with authoritarian parents who also held homophobic attitudes. In the university press release, Netta Weinstein, the study's lead author said, "Individuals who identify as straight but in psychological tests show a strong attraction to the same sex may be threatened by gays and lesbians because homosexuals remind them of similar tendencies within themselves." In the same release, study co-author Richard Ryan added, "In many cases these are people who are at war with themselves and they are turning this internal conflict outward."

It's often been alluded that the catholic priesthood has a disproportionate bastion of closeted gay men.  In my opinion, according to this article, that would seem to make logical sense.  Individuals who are struggling with and unable to come to terms with their own true sexual identity will find solace in a profession where the vow of celibacy within the authoritarian hierarchy of the church becomes a way to deflect conflicted personal feelings away from one's self and onto others.  It's basically a big psychological con came and ruse to cover up their own true nature.  Unfortunately this results in extreme public anti-gay behavior. 

Comment by Chrissie Farthing on April 11, 2013 at 8:26am

I would never support violence of any kind but in this world I wonder how come the biggest instigator in the universe is that hate group known as The Catholic Church has not inspired a Cathophobic response. It's proof that gay people who are hiding deep in the closet are the most offensive homophobes.  They have initiated hatred, violence and murder for many centuries and they are still at it. Most of the crap going on in France over gay marriage is at the bidding of the Catholic Church.


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