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Comment by Dominic Florio on February 10, 2013 at 11:19am

This brings us back to the discussion of whether people who say they are bi, are actually gay.  I certainly can't say and I would have to take people at their word, but does it hurt us or help us?

I had a male visitor the other night who identifies as "straight" and he only does certain things.  What people do not realize is that you can be a virgin and still be gay.  Your nature is your nature.

I have alwys found that women were more flexible or willing to state that they were bi, and without a study, I have seen many move back and forth between men and women, often when a relationship goes badly with one, they move to the opposite.  Not being a woman, I gave up a long time ago trying to explain female sexuality.  You don't find truly heterosexual boys kissing each other at pajama parties or experimenting in college. 

While many heterosexuals have had gay experiences, that is different from "experimenting" for a length of time.  Typically, few heterosexual males take up with men, when they have a failed heterosexual relationship.

I still find most OUT males identifying as gay, but many who are on the DL, will claim to be bi or even straight like my recent visitor.  But, I am in no way negating the claims of either bisexuality or being somewhere on the spectrum, since, how could I know anyway?

While it is obviously a silly ploy by some to claim bi or straight status to gain some sort of "normality", I wonder if in today's world, if people are becoming more relaxed about their sexuality and recognizing even a slight variation on the sexuality scale?

This could actuality help us, because in the past, if I heard someone say that everybody is a little bi or everyone has experimented, they were usually making the case against gay people, promoting movement to the "norm" of heterosexuality, while dismissing a gay identity.

But, if more people are identifying with being somewhere on the spectrum, it may be that it is becoming a "so what" or "who cares" situation.  Studies have shown that a growing number of people are acepting marriage equality.

Maybe our movement has helped a growing number of people to openly recognize that they may not be 100 % of anything, but still might have strong preferences.

I'm 53 and as a teenager, all those many years ago, when I began to recognize and admitt my sexual feelings, I first identified as bi, for a short time.  I thought it was safer and since I didn't hate women, so it must be the case.  But the gay movement taught me to love myself and accept myself for whoever I am.  For me, that turned out to be 100 % gay.

In today's world, these young wipper snappers have more choices, role models, and a small but growing approval by society, to be who you are.  Obviously, we are not there yet, but we are moving towards the goals for which we have fought.


Comment by Daniel W on February 10, 2013 at 8:50am

So funny!  So true!

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 10, 2013 at 2:21am

Comment by Daniel W on February 1, 2013 at 10:38pm

Gary  - I'm also 100% gay.  As for drawing the line on discrimination, no one had any problem where to draw the line for me.  

Carl - thanks for posting.  i haven't watched yet but intend to.

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 1, 2013 at 2:02pm
Colin Higgins Youth Courage Awards were established in 2000 to further the spirit and lifework of Colin Higgins. All of his films celebrate honesty and integrity in the face of adversity: Harold and Maude find love despite the objections of family and society, the heroes of Nine to Five find fulfillment and save the company by learning to appreciate their individual talents and differences, and the despised madam of The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas transforms the lives of many through her kindness. Like the characters in his films, Colin Higgins Youth Courage Award recipients have endured overwhelming hardships due to their sexual orientation and/or gender identity, yet have handled themselves with the utmost grace.

NOW ACCEPTING: 2013 Colin Higgins Youth Courage Award Nominations!!!

Please nominate LGBTQ individuals who demonstrate courage in the face of adversity and discrimination based on gender and/or
Comment by Gary F. Lord on February 1, 2013 at 12:43pm

I am 100% gay so I don't know where to draw the line.

Comment by The Flying Atheist on February 1, 2013 at 12:26pm

Here's a great TED talk that was just released:

iO Tillett Wright: Fifty shades of gay

Artist iO Tillett Wright has photographed 2,000 people who consider themselves somewhere on the LBGTQ spectrum and asked many of them: Can you assign a percentage to how gay or straight you are? Most people, it turns out, consider themselves to exist in the gray areas of sexuality, not 100% gay or straight. Which presents a real problem when it comes to discrimination: Where do you draw the line?

Comment by Daniel W on January 31, 2013 at 9:51am

Gandhi's supposed gay love letters on display.  Queerty.


Of course, that thought upsets a lot of people.  



NY Times


An older discussion.....

Who knows? Interesting. "Taking control of my body, with a vengience"

India gov't not too crazy about this.

India's a rather homophobic place, although not as virulent as much of Africa and the Muslim world.  That their great liberator might be....  suggested.... to be gay, isn't an easy argument to make.

Comment by Grinning Cat on January 29, 2013 at 12:52pm

This young woman found the tastiest (and punniest) possible way to come out to her parents -- it really takes the cake!

(Hit the link for the article and bigger photos.)

Comment by Daniel W on January 27, 2013 at 10:04pm

In an early casualty of marriage equality - also known to some as gay marriage - also known to some as same sex marriage - etc...

Antigay Maryand state representative Don Dwyer was so despondent over marriage equality, he got drunk, crashed his boat, and injured 4 children.  And is now separated from his wife.  Which proves, gay marriage harms mixed-sex marriages.

Then there's former-episcopal-and-now-catholic priest John Cornelius, who was so upset about his denomination being open to gay clergy and then, even, women clergy (gasp), he's sworn off sex with his wife to become a Catholic priest.  Which proves that equal rights for LGBT people damages marriage and religion.  Although not religious freedom, since he's went from Baptist to Methodist during the "wild 60s," and dappled in Hare Krishna and Baha'i, ultimately winding up Episcopalian and now Catholic.  All that, and he can't stomach there being a gay, or female, priest.  Good luck in the Catholic church!


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