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Comment by Daniel W 21 hours ago

Hiram wrote a great blog on "Kim The Virtuous" and her travails.

Comment by Daniel W 21 hours ago

BB -

. So, all she needs to do is show incontrovertible proof of her claim, that signing her name to a marriage license for a same-sex couple will directly result in her spending an eternity in hell. If this is true, I'm for her, her request is reasonable.

Most of the time I agree with you on most things. However, I don't see why she should get special treatment on this point. Most employers would have no problem forcing their subordinates to perform tasks that will result in those employees spending an eternity in hell.  In fact, their performance appraisals probably get extra points for such. 

There may be an out for her.  If she can get her doctor to sign an FMLA form (family medical leave act), stating that she has a dermatologic condition that will be exacerbated by hellfire and brimstone exposure, she might be able to get a light duty excuse, say, spend eternity in hell, but no more than 4 consecutive hours per shift.  Or, if she could be diagnosed with Hellfire and Brimstone Sensitivity Syndrome, she might get Social Security disability and avoid the whole issue.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan 22 hours ago

Charlie Pierce had a typically sharp take on the whole thing:

Dear Judge Bunning: Thanks for nothing.

Let me explain to you what happens now. The entire political communications apparatus of the wingnut welfare system goes to DefCon 1. (Judge Bunning's e-mail is going to get very entertainingly unchristian, I suspect.) Kim Davis now becomes the latest ornament on the Hang Yourself Cross of Bible-banging victimhood. There will be marches and vigils. There will be a six-figure book deal; my money's on John Fund as Davis's ghost. There may even be one of those movies produced by gullibility trawlers like the one helmed by Rick Santorum. Anybody want to bet me that she doesn't speak at next year's Republican National Convention? You have made a star, Judge Bunning, and the rest of us have to live with her.

Comment by Pat 22 hours ago

Bertold, you're welcome as to the link. I would add that Daily Stormer has endorsed Trump for President. Just sayin'.

As to a Davis/Palin colonic spa. I live at the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi Rivers. There ain't enough water to flush that away!

Comment by Bertold Brautigan 23 hours ago

Pat, I hadn't previously encountered the lovely and insightful Website you linked. Thanks for making my day!

Kim, once she's established as a media sensation (and she has every bit as much charisma as Mary Lou Retton) could start a side business with Sarah Palin. They could establish a high end (so to speak) colonic spa in D.C. for constipated Republicans.)

Comment by Pat 23 hours ago

Bertold, you make a great point. A franchise on Fox News? TBN? Daily Stormer? Breitbart? NewsMax (When news breaks we fix it, and ohhhhhh, do we fix it!). I see shekels in her future from the bigoted Trump supporters. 

Comment by Bertold Brautigan 23 hours ago

KY update - NPR just noted that the County Clerk proposed a compromise by which Kim would be excused from issuing licenses herself if she would promise not to interfere with her clerks. She refused. Most likely at this point she's seeing dollar signs beckoning as much as the gates of heaven.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan yesterday

This should be such a simple and straightforward case, and it could be easily settled, no fuss, no bother. Kim is asking for a special right, not to perform part of her job responsibilities. So, all she needs to do is show incontrovertible proof of her claim, that signing her name to a marriage license for a same-sex couple will directly result in her spending an eternity in hell. If this is true, I'm for her, her request is reasonable. Without that proof? Why are we even wasting money on legal proceedings?

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner yesterday

LOL, Bertold.That sounds like a good idea.

Good point about bible injunctions and selective behavior, Daniel.

Comment by Daniel W yesterday
I am pretty sure there is nothing in the bible saying that Jesus requires Kim Davis to be the county clerk in Kentucky.

There are some things saying that Kim Davis' serial marriages are adulterous, and that she should be stoned for that. Unclear what kind of stones, but either granite or flint will usually suffice.

How many divorced persons has she refused to allow go remarry?
 

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