The alt right is old racism for the tech-savvy generation

Gamergate trolls add internet racism and misogyny to mainstream politics. The most loathsome geeks and nerds now back climate-denying tRump.

…the so-called alternative (or alt) right. Think Mein Kampf meets The Big Bang Theory. For years these socially dysfunctional millennials have sheltered behind their bedroom laptops, watching porn, sending abusive tweets (anonymously) and eating pizza in their underpants. Mainstream politics – both left and right – has previously ignored this developing phenomenon. But with Donald Trump they have found a champion who understands their anger. And they have become his digital vanguard.

One account of their rise to political significance cites the 2014 Gamergate controversy. This vicious internet culture war took place between those who were pressing for a more inclusive video gaming culture (more women, less violence) and those who reacted against what they saw as a humourless leftwing threat to their enjoyment of guns and boobs. These burgeoning alt right gamers have little in common with traditional Republican conservatives and their evangelical Christian values.

… they come together on blogs and online community forums like 4chan where they fulminate against social justice warriors – SJWs – who want to spoil their fun. [emphasis mine]

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And  they hate normies – normal people – and their repressive political philosophy, democracy. Instead of democracy, they propose that the US should be run like a large company with a CEO at its head, preferably one from Silicon Valley. Someone like PayPal founder Peter Thiel, whose views include : “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” But Trump will do for now. Oh, and only intelligent people should be in charge, and that means white people.

Traditional Republicans are now regularly dismissed by the revolting term cuckservatives – an insult first used by white supremacists of Christian conservatives who, they said, have allowed themselves to be cuckolded by racial minorities.

racism … now has a very new iteration in the nerdy tech-savvy generation of the alt right. Racism 2.0.

… there is something new here. For in cross-pollinating with the anonymity and viciousness of the internet, with porn and video games replacing Christianity as the common language in which conservatives talk to each other, with openly anti-democratic impulses being justified as rationality, the virus of racism is capable of spreading as never before. [emphasis mine]

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It sounds like your position is anyone who doesn't subscribe to the SJW group think is a "socially regressive asshole," that seems to be a broad negative brush to be painted with. Perhaps you can clarify please.

I think it should be ok for people to disagree with SJW representatives and not be labeled as a regressive asshole. Writing everyone off because they aren't exactly what you are, using hostile bullying language like asshole to keep them in line seems like exactly what Christians would do, not a group I would want to mimic personally.

I am not right wing, I'm not libertarian, I am pretty liberal, and I don't think SJW's are correct all the time. I don't think they are wholly incorrect, however I can't condone bullying regardless of which side perpetrates it. Discussion should be encouraged not shut down. I don't like fox news I think the representations they make are full of shit, but I would rather win against them in the arena of ideas rather than beat them down with totalitarian mandates. I stand against fascist principles regardless of which side is trying to oppress. In fact I hate it even more when it comes from people who I generally agree with (aka more liberal minded people), I've come to expect such deplorable words and actions from the religious right, but to find it in a place where I think I should feel safe and accepted, even if its not directed at me is troubling.

Anyone who writes off someone who claims to be a SJW, or is labeled in any way as SJW on the basis that they MUST be "Hyper-emotional" hence illogical is wrong. I don't know the background of the whole SJW thing, I wasn't involved when lines were drawn in the sand and I don't know who started what. But I have heard people claim to be SJW, and heard people accuse others of being SJW. I don't think that label should be blanket demonized and I don't think people who share ideas labeled as that should be ignored or shut down. Emotions are always valid and real and worthy of consideration. Emotions are also always illogical, so what. That doesn't make them less important or meaningful. So writing off someone just cause they are emotional, or you don't agree with them is wrong. I also don't think the end result should be a world where everyone's thoughts are identical to everyone else. I have some major concerns with the current state of affairs as a result.

I don't think I hate thunderfoot, I know nothing of that other dude mentioned earlier, I don't agree with all of thunderfoots positions, I think he has some valid points even when his end result is wrong. AND I would say the same to his opponents. I don't hate feminists, I don't agree with everything they say, I think they have valid points EVEN when I think the end result they come up with is wrong. Mostly my concern is about this hyper polarization and condemnation reflective of the greater political community. When any person on either side of the camp says the other side isn't worth listening to because they are evil (or enter whatever demonization characteristic here), the person saying this is wrong. When thunderfoot does it he is wrong (and I have heard him do that), I have also heard similar characterizations here and when that happens it is also wrong.

I actively seek out people whom I don't agree with to listen to, they aren't going to corrupt my mind, I have nothing to fear from listening and thinking. Thinking is the most important and valuable skill I have.

I'm a bit late to the party here I apologize.

I think its important to note the author's stated bias as a Social Justice Warrior. I don't like how overly simplified the gamers gate problem was presented in the media. It is a far more nuanced and completely misrepresented due to the actions of some very creepy rotten basement dwellers.

Let me start off by saying a few things

1 I am a life long gamer

2 I categorically condemn the actions of any shitbag who thinks its ok to attack or degrade women or hack their accounts to bully and harass them ect. I do not condone such activity and I think people who act like that well I just said, they are shitbags.

3 Many likely most of my gamer friends are women, and by that I don't mean G.I.R.L. (Guy's in real life) I mean women whom I've spoken with on voice, some I've even met irl. I tend to be more on the hard core gamer side and many of the best gamer's on the planet are women. They are brilliant players, fun to be around and I don't know a single woman gamer who disagree's with me on any of these points.

4 I am against censorship in games (and in books, and in TV ect). Not every game I play is about "boobs n guns" and frankly 99% of the time in a game I play as a female when given the choice (that started off as a prank to show a friend online that not all girl characters in games were played by girls in real life, I was sick of him harassing women all the time so I tricked him, he stopped harassing women as a result, I found I liked playing as  a girl so I just kept on with it). One of the things that bothers me the most about this is how most of the hate isn't coming from gamer's, its coming from an outside judgmental community with bizarre standards and no understanding on gamer culture or understanding on what art should  be (go look at some Greek statues please). Game's aren't the source of misogyny or racism or gang violence, or mass murder, or atheism, they won't make you less intelligent, or any of the other make believe bullshit arguments people use to attack the game industry. These made up lies have never been backed up when math and statistics enter the room, please go find the data its everywhere and easy to locate (just get it from an independent source, as SJW's like to use questionable make believe sources more often than not I've found).

I am not condoning misogyny in games, as for objectification of the female body, frankly I would encourage that but in a different way,I would encourage objectification of the male body in direct equal quantities to that of female (equal representation). To be fair that already happens, but social justice warriors see only what they want to see, which is a very dogmatic viewpoint. Women in video games are strong badass' that often don't need to prove they are equal or superior to any men in the room (starting with Nintendo's Samus), they have "perfect" (more like unrealistic) body's and represent the highest standard of cool, far more so than any human could ever hope to achieve. This often is also reflected in male characters too, with perfect chizled body's that no guy has (and men feel just as much pressure to have a perfect body as women do if you weren't already aware, we just tend to suck at it by comparison. aka girls are far better at it than most guys), but SJW's tend to forget these facts. Strong female lead characters exist in many games, in fact they may surpass strong male leads in quantity.

5 Guys that put girls down, don't get to play with girls. Not joking, the sign you should leave a guild is that there's no women around, it means the guys are all likely creeps not worth your time. EVERY girl gamer I know is highly respected by the people around them, and while there may be exceptions to that in some places, pretending all female gamers are always abused by all male gamers is a false dichotomy. (Also guys that put girls down, statistically are FAR worse players than guys that don't put girls down and worse than the girls they put down, that should tell you a lot right there).

6 Men shouldn't bash women. PERIOD. EVER. its a dumb thing to do and most guys that do seem to be straight making it even more absurd that they think treating women like shit would somehow win over a compatible mate. Men that bash women are in EVERY corner of society, its not the games causing this, its not the movies causing this, its not attractive people or representations of attractive people causing this, its male's passing it down from adults to children that cause this. For all the abusive fuckery from my father he never once even raised his voice in anger at my mom, never hit her, he did the whole christian bullshit about being the head of the house but that's christian values I wouldn't expect him to be capable of breaking away from that brainwashing. Every other male role model I had growing up treated women with respect, I didn't like all they did but I couldn't have imagined ever hearing a man talk about women the way Trump has, as an adult I found that the male role models I had in life are quite rare.

People treating people poorly is a big problem, from discrimination of the sexes to racism to homophobia. I play games to play games, not to "pick up chicks" as some would say, I respect the women I play games with, they are fun funny smart and talented gamers (usually they married or not into guys or specifically not into me lol, oh well) I hate that NO ONE bothers to ask women gamers what THEY think. They just listen to SJW's and others. I wouldn't call myself anti SJW or pro SJW, I think all that shit is silly nonsense, lets try focusing on problems where the source of the problem lies and quit swinging at every little thing we don't like in the world just case we don't like it.

In short, be a decent human, and treat everyone well. Or as some of the girls I know have said, it's ok to have a dick, its not ok to BE a dick.

Oh and feel free to disagree with me free from fear. I don't flame people, or troll people or hate on people just cause they have an opposing viewpoint. I simply make my case as best I can and listen to other people's cases.




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