Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 180
Latest Activity: on Saturday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

Old and Green. Gardening with an older body.

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 33 Replies

An Herb Garden for Chickens

Started by Joan Denoo on Friday. 0 Replies

Using Chickens in a Food Forest

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by k.h. ky Jul 17. 15 Replies

Crisis garden annuals

Started by Larry Martin. Last reply by Larry Martin Jul 11. 4 Replies

Growing Tomatoes in Martian Soil

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 7. 6 Replies

Bring On The Soldier Flies!

Started by Joan Denoo Jun 5. 0 Replies

Urban Permaculture

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Grinning Cat Jun 3. 1 Reply

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Comment by Daniel W on Friday
Randy, I cut diwn about 2/3 of the blackberry thicket before the weather got too hot for me. I plan to resume cutting late summer /early fall. I did leave some blooming brambles in place for berry picking.

Rained today. Unusual around here in summer. Hoping for some good sweet corn soon.
Comment by Randall Smith on Friday

Welcome, Dorothy, to our little group! I read your comment on Daniel's forum discussion. Regarding tomato worms, I check my plants every day. Those little devils can do some serious damage!

Comment by Randall Smith on Friday

Daniel, it all looks so delicious. My white peaches don't ripen 'til September. Your blue and black berries? I though you got rid of your invasive blackberry patch.

Comment by Plinius on Thursday

Congrats, Daniel, it looks great!

Comment by Daniel W on Thursday

Some of the kitchen garden produce this week.  I keep whining about no tomatoes yet, but it's really been rewarding.  Collards, mulberries, white flesh peaches, blueberries, blackberries, figs.  You reap what you sow, sometimes  :-)

Comment by Daniel W on July 19, 2016 at 1:18pm

Randy, I always  enjoy hearing about hour experiments and experiences.

I think there will be the first ever persimmons on my trees this year.  Not American persimmons, although I just constructed a larger deer cage for my 3rd-year  American Persimmon in hopes that it wil keep bearing branches for next year.

Last weekend I harvested garlic - nice crop, and Yukon Gold potatoes, and a few big cooking onions.

Replacing the garlic, I planted seeds for turnips, kohlrabi, radishes, carrots, and others.  Now I need to put up some rabbit fencing and row cover to keep cabbage moths out.

Comment by Randall Smith on July 17, 2016 at 6:47am

Daniel, I enjoy reading about your "experiments", trials and tribulations. Plus, I learn a lot from your expertise. Thanks.

My SIL has a variety of sweet corn that got wormy and is worthless to sell. So today, I'm going to go pick several bushels and freeze a big batch. I'll just chop off the wormy ends. Hate to see all that corn go to the compost pile. It's amazing how much he has to throw away. And it hurts to see it done.

Comment by Daniel W on July 16, 2016 at 10:43am

Randy, I imagine you get great sweet corn in Indiana.  Perfect climate conditions and soil.  Corn loves hot humid summers.

I didn't grow corn for many years.  It was described as not likely to be successful here, because of our shorter cooler summers, especially cool spring and cool nights.

Last year I researced the varieties and chose two that have shorter season, and supposedly tolerate cooler soil.  The plant is shorter and the ears are smaller.  All I can say is one variety, "Trinity" was SO good, the best sweet corn I've had in many years.  The ears are not huge, but they are respectable.  The other was Early Sunglow, which was just too puny, not productive in my garden.

This year I planted sweet orn every 2 or 3 weeks late April to end of June.  I planted 4 varieties - Trinity, Bilicious, White Mirai, and Bodaceous.    The first of the trinity is 2 weeks after developing silks, so expecting sweet corn soon.  It takes some research because some seed packets are not labeled as to their genetics.

There are several corn genes for sweetness.  None are GMO for the home gardener, just conventional breeding.  

Sugary (su), Sugary Enhanced (se), “Supersweet” (sh2)

If you mix varieties, it can mess up the sweetness.  Most seem to be se, like the Trinity that I grew.  The sweetness genes are mutations in the process that converts sugar to starch, so there is more sugar, less starch, and they keep longer depending on the variety.  So you don't have to run from the corn patch to the pot of boiling water to get them perfect, any more. 

Most of mine this year are se types, but Mirai is a combo of all 3 genes.  Some gardeners complain it is too sweet, too tender, and doesn't taste like corn.  I hope to find out in about a month.  The catalog states Mirai can be eaten fresh off the plant without cooking.  I don't know about that.

Comment by Randall Smith on July 16, 2016 at 7:24am
My yard and garden is surrounded by fields of either corn or soybeans. When it's corn, I have to plant my sweet corn as far from the field as possible. Usually and fortunately however, sweet corn pollinates before field corn. Enjoyed your explanation, Daniel.
Nice looking garden, Don!
Comment by k.h. ky on July 15, 2016 at 8:58pm
Thanks Daniel. You are far from pedantic. Informative is the word I would use. And entertaining. Loved the example of cross breeding :) It was the rotation I had in my mind. Such as it's became anyway. Age is catching up with me.
 

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