Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

Discussion Forum

Cover crops: Gabe Brown

Started by Joan Denoo yesterday. 0 Replies

Geodesic Dome Greenhouses

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Monday. 1 Reply


Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Daniel W Jul 5. 14 Replies

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Comment by Don 19 minutes ago

Joan, those little yellow flowers are hawkweed.  And the meadow is just a lot of wild field plants (clover, fireweed, plantains, dandelion, wild strawberry, campion, Queen Anne's lace, and various grasses that I keep mown.  Those birch logs are one stalk of the gray birch nearby, which I took down because it was bending into the path.  It's a short-lived tree.

Here in Vermont, Thomas, feeding the deer would be illegal.  But numerous as they are, the deer are not to much of a problem for most gardeners.  They do sometimes damage young trees, especially in the winter.  

Comment by Randall Smith 57 minutes ago

New computer and crumby keyboard, so bear with me. 

On wildlife, it's rabbits and  'coons that are the bane of my garden existance (see Wildlife group post).

Beautiful home and setting,  Don!

Joan, as soon as I replace this keyboard, I'll answer your question.

Comment by Joan Denoo 16 hours ago

Loren, or anyone who has any brains left, mine have evaporated into the ether. 

How do I change the dimensions of a video 

from 640 x 360

to     500 x

Comment by Joan Denoo 17 hours ago

Randy, how is your garden doing? What are your major challenges at this time of year? 

Is the farm recoveing? With all the flooding and weather problems they had, it is no wonder they were overwhelmed. With your wise guidance and their experiences, I hope the future is easier. 

Hi Kathy, just checking in. Hope you are well and have few challenges to complicate your summer. 

Comment by Joan Denoo 17 hours ago

Daniel, your formidable wildlife challenge seems overwhelming for the gardener in me. The part of me that enjoys wildlife makes it a very special place. Your inventory of deer, birds, rabbits, and I suppose a mouse, squirrel, and mole or two must add to the rascals to keep from your fine produce. Do you have as many problems at your Battle Ground property?


Comment by Joan Denoo 17 hours ago

I seem to be settling into a new normal as I look out my window to the growing boxes and see healthy, rebust weeds growing out of the carefully prepared beds with layers of composted manure. I have neither the energy nor the strength to even visit the boxes. What I do have left are the birdfeeders that attracted several families of birds; they flitter back and forth between the feeders and the forest leaving a trail of their droppings that turn the meadow green under their fleight pattern. 

I am becoming a better driver of my wheelchair and I am determined not to leave any marks on the furniture, walls, or cabinets. 

The fellows are all busy with building projects and clearing forest for fire safety I haven't asked for help to the greenhouse. The snow took down several sheds and roofs last winter and these projects take a team of rebuilders. 

I am getting stronger with less pain in my foot and ankle. I should be up and walking around very soon. I do my exercises every day and keep my foot elevated on pillows night & day. I tried, unsuccessfully, to walk to the bathroom this morning so I will keep at the exercises, ice packs, and elevated foot. 

Don, your gardens inspire me every year; I long for the days when I could put in a good day's work and turn out beautiful gardens. I give up that dream and enjoy seeing your work, Daniels, and any photos of gardens and progress. You have a lovely meadow, Don, with a pretty yellow blossom; what is growing there? The photo looking through the deciduous trees toward your house looks calm and relaxing, even though there is sign of hard work with the stack of cut wood. 

Comment by Idaho Spud 17 hours ago

I like that radio idea.  Have no idea if it works, but it's worth a try.

Comment by Thomas Murray 18 hours ago

Seems that nobody's garden is immune to pest & wildlife that eats up & destroy our hard work I thought I might share a few things that may or may not reduce our garden to destruction. And I am sure many here already know these tricks.....

1) Electric fence is obvious...

2) Motion Activated Sprinkler.


These sprinklers do work...and this one in Amazon you can attach more hoses to connect  to other regular sprinkler for all around defense. My two complaints with these is that they are not built to last and the batteries wear out quicker than normally would. However, bears may find it a playful toy.

Bonus: Planting one of these motion sprinkler at your front door keeps the J.W.s away.

3) Use a cheap radio. I have not tried this. It was suggested that the radio is placed in the garden or on the side and turned on at night and tuned into a talk show channel . The volume need not to be loud. So when small critters comes out at night they wont approach talking people on the radio.

4) Dragon Kites

I bought these originally to protect my chickens from Red Tailed hawk. The following day the kite was attacked by several birds. I was also happy to learn that my garden fared better with it around. The one pictured is exactly the dragon kite I used. My experience with this kite is that it needs to be moved around every two or three days and put away every evening.

5) Deer feeder

Some people claim that providing a feeding center for deer will protect your garden and fruit trees.

Comment by Don 19 hours ago

Wow, Daniel, that's a veritable plague of pests.  I garden in the countryside, too (we're half a mile from the nearest residence to the south and a mile or more in the other directions), and we don't have much trouble at all.  No fence, no need to net my sour cherries or raspberries, either.  

We do often see moose and deer and rabbits and woodchucks and bears, sometimes, and coons and skunks at night, but they seldom bother the garden.  Probably all that wildlife here has so many better options farther afield.  Late in the fall, after I've put the garden to bed (except for the B. sprouts), deer will venture out of the woods to nose up any carrots I may have missed and the eats the tops of the B. sprouts, though they leave the sprouts themselves for us.  

When a woodchuck does happen to blunder into the garden, which may happen once every few years, I know that, having discovered it, he'll keep coming back.  So I get out the .22.  That's the extent of the trouble we see here, though, I'm glad to say.  

I had to give up on sweet corn years ago, though.  The raccoons cannot resist it.

Comment by Daniel W 20 hours ago

This has been a difficult year for me, with wildlife.  But no bears.  Deer seem to get into anything that appeals to them, and maintaining the fencing is a challenge.  I thought they were not into the fig trees, except an occasional nibble.  But they completely destroyed a young fig tree that I made by grafting, t years ago.  They ate it off below the graft.  Birds ate almost all of the tart cherries, and a lot of the sweet cherries, and all of the mulberries, most of the small number of blackberries.  They have been pecking holes in the sided of plums, long before they ripen.  This fall, I want to create a new cage for the berries for next year, basically a net-house to keep out deer, rabbits, and birds.  Well, that's gardening in the countryside!

Some of the fruit trees are tall enough to be inconvenient for deer, which means I have been removing some deer caging.  That's helpful because it makes maintenance and mowing easier.

The animals don't touch potatoes, don't eat the sweet corn plants once they are about a foot tall.  Rabbits eat baby corn plants and baby onions and garlic, but not when they are bigger.  They ate off zinnias when small, but also avoid bigger ones.  None of the animals here touch cosmos, marigolds, four oclocks, .  gladiolias, or tigridia.


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