Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Broadfork Chicken MIRACLE

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Oct 8. 4 Replies

What Killed My Chicken - How To Know

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 28. 2 Replies

Polluting Yourself with Leaf Blowers

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Daniel Wachenheim Sep 22. 6 Replies

Willow tree

Started by Thomas Murray. Last reply by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Sep 15. 12 Replies

Front yard gardening. Edible Estates.

Started by Daniel Wachenheim. Last reply by k.h. ky Sep 15. 14 Replies

Archer Strawberry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Idaho Spud Sep 15. 2 Replies

Deer Fence Installed! But Where's the Mulch?

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Sep 6. 1 Reply

My Farm Failures - Revealed Justin Rhodes

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 15. 2 Replies

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 5, 2013 at 11:57am

Here is a weed of the moment.  Interesting about weeds.  What some references label as weeds, I make a conscious effort to grow - dutch clover, violets, and sometimes dandelions for chicken feed and now bee nectar.  Then, there's some plants others buy, I cant eradicate despite heroic effort - Spanish bluebells, lemon balm.  This weed is henbit.  It makes a nice low ground cover in the perennial bed.  I haven't decided whether to pull it out or not.  It's easy to pull but I think I'll leave it there.  According to Wikipedia, tastes vaguely like spinach.  Also one of the few plants blooming for bees now.

The henbit (not hen bane, completely different plant) is quite pretty in bloom.


I turned over this patch or grass and weeds last summer, and planted irises, many rescued or starts from others. Plus a big load of compost. Now it's covered by henbit (Lamium amplexicaule). I think I"ll leave it there.

Meanwhile, I'm also moving my former nemesis, lemon balm (Melissa officinalis) and (Hyacinthoides hispanica) to my rural place. The reason is deer and rabbits, which eat a lot of plants, reportedly avoid these too. And the Melissa is a good bee plant.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 5, 2013 at 9:30am

Amer, those cacti are beautiful.

Comment by amer chohan on March 4, 2013 at 9:59am

My gardening like my country is different from most of friends. Hope I am not infecting people with too much cactus. But I will like to introduce another beautiful cactus named Epithelantha Bokai commonly known as button cactus. This plant is native to Taxas USA.

As for as I am concerned I have some small seedlings of these. Hope that if everything goes well, my next generation could become proud owner of some pelecyphoras and epithelanthas.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 3, 2013 at 11:31pm

"Just as we got rid of slavery, we've got to get rid of slavery of life, through patents on seed. We have a higher duty to protect life on earth, to protect biodiversity and to pass on living seed to our future."

~ Vandana Shiva

Comment by Dominic Florio on March 3, 2013 at 4:40pm

Yes Annie,

I have always liked them and I hare kept a colony for years.  They do very well outside, living on the bottom of an aviary with birds up above.  Once in awhile I have had them in with chickens.  It's adorable to see new born guinea pigs hiding under a hen.

Comment by Annie Thomas on March 3, 2013 at 4:26pm

I haven't checked in for a few days, so I've been enjoying everyone's photos!  Dominic- it looks like you have a bunch of guinea pigs.  Are these pets?  Amer- I loved seeing the cacti you grow. And Sentient- I love hearing what others plant in their vegetable gardens.  Thank you all for sharing.

We are expecting a freeze here in North Central Florida tonight, so I've just come in from covering all my newly planted seeds.  I knew I should have waited until mid March, but I was too excited.  A typical rookie mistake, but I look forward to seeing what makes it through.  So far, only my radishes, a couple of beans, some of my quinoa and some corn has sprouted.  I hope they will be warm under the wadded up newspaper I placed under sheets.

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim on March 3, 2013 at 3:24pm

Dominic, beautiful photos!  Paradise!

I was thinking of growing castor beans this year, but am also going to have honey bees.  I don't know if the nectar might be toxic, so won't grow them.  I also got rid of an oleander for the same reason.  Still, as you show, it's a beautiful plant!  All of your photos are awesome!

Amer, such beautiful cacti!  15 years to grow a small plant.  You have a lot of patience!


As for me, the air and soil temperature here is in the 40s F to 60s F.  Today I planted seeds for my 2nd vegetable raised bed, this time without a frost protecting cover - more snow peas, short rows of turnips, bok choy, Chinese cabbage, more radishes, spinach, mesclun, an heirloom lettuce called "Tennis ball".   Some scallions, including some old seeds of Evergreen Bunching onions, planted because I suspect they are not viable, but rather then throwing them away might as well give them a chance.  All of these are cold tolerant.  A row of Ixia at the end, just because. 


Photo from although mine were from the Fred Meyer store.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 3, 2013 at 2:26pm

Oh my goodness, Amer, these plants are beautiful! I have never seen images. You grow them? I am impressed. 

Comment by amer chohan on March 3, 2013 at 12:59pm

Yes Chris, Pelecyphoras though tiny in size are beautiful creatures, highly desired plants among collectors. it will take some 15 years to have a plant of that size. Here are some other examples

Comment by Plinius on March 3, 2013 at 12:43am

From your own garden, Amer? They're beauties! I like the tiny fernleaf patterns on the body very much.


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