Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Daniel W on June 17, 2014 at 7:49pm

A belated thanks to Chris who identified my weed - or volunteer flower - photo as delphinium.  I am not sure.  It's much tinier flower than the delphiniums I have seen.  On the other hand, this one is wild and the ones I have seen were tame.  So maybe!  Anyway, thanks!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 17, 2014 at 5:41pm

king, I understand your dismay with the way the USA is going. You take on a real adventure and being young, you probably have the stamina to make such a move. Be sure to keep in touch when you do go and let us know if it is any better in New Zealand. They do have more environmentally friendly policies, as I understand it. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 17, 2014 at 5:39pm

Barbara, very good ideas. I like the vinegar, baking soda and salt idea. That makes life much easier. 

Thanks for the recipe for soda fungicide. Yes, powdery mildew is one of the problems. Another is that is persistent is shotgun or artillery fungus. I have it because I have wood chunks for my pathways, so I create my own problem. I don't want a stone or other materials. 

Yes, we have an excellent extension agent here attached to the horticulture research at Washington State University. They provide excellent support. 

Comment by king on June 17, 2014 at 5:26pm
This will be a couple years done the road for me
Comment by k.h. ky on June 17, 2014 at 5:25pm
Stupid auto correct.
Comment by k.h. ky on June 17, 2014 at 5:25pm
Congrats King. Are we all invited tovvisit?
Comment by king on June 17, 2014 at 5:09pm
As far as I can find as long as you are trained in a job field in demand in new zealand and with a degree in math there are so many jobs I can do
Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 17, 2014 at 4:45pm

Joan, I found this online. I've never tried it.  I'm learning I only need three things in life to live: a bottle of vinegar, a box of baking soda, and a box of salt. Create anything with it. :) 


Baking soda makes an inexpensive control for powdery mildew on plants. The baking soda fungicide is mostly effective as a preventative, offering only minimal benefits after your plants have become infected. Weekly spraying of susceptible plants during humid or damp weather can greatly reduce the incidence of powdery mildew in your garden.

To control powdery mildew on plants, mix together:

  • 1 tablespoon of baking soda
  • ½ teaspoon of liquid soap
  • 1 gallon of water

Do not store unused mixture. While this recipe has been known to be effective, it can burn the leaves of some plants. It is recommended that you water your infected plants well a couple of days before applying this mixture, and don’t apply it in full sun. Try on a small area first, to test the plant’s response before spraying the entire plant.

Some recipes also recommend applying 1 tablespoon of ultralight horticultural oil to the mixture. The oil coats and smothers the fungi. The soap is added to help the mix spread and cling to the leaf surface. Be sure to apply to lower leaf surfaces as well.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 17, 2014 at 4:39pm

Joan, when I have a question about gardening I always first go online and check with what Dr. Jerry Parsons of Texas A&M Extension has to say. The man is the go-to person for growing anything in Texas. Is there an agricultural extension agent in your county in WA?  Perhaps they have a website where you can ask the question?  

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 17, 2014 at 4:19pm

Barbara, you are on your way. Now, get some good literature for how to SAVE the bees, butterflies, hummingbirds, lady bugs and green lacewings. 

I would tell her all the things that are missing from our gardens because of human activity, and all the alternatives to insecticides that are so easily available. And they work night and day. 

I have looked an looked for an aphid and can find none. Diatomaceous earth takes care of my slugs and snails, although I am not sure they would work in Daniel's garden in SE Washington state. 

What I need is anti fungus, organic. Anyone found anything that works. I have lost so many things to fungus, so I do no overhead watering, all my soaker hoses are buried under soil, I have timers that go off for only as much water as they need, and I am trying to pull out all the weeds that grew during my hear off playing with cancer chemicals. 


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