Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 16 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

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Comment by Daniel W on July 5, 2014 at 2:13pm

Joan and Spud, thanks for the comments.  I worry that I  over-post about things I like, like the bees.  Not a lot of people to share this with.  Not wanting to bore anyone with my obsessions.

Until modern chemical-laden times, clover lawns were common.  Grass seed often included clover.  The lawn I grew up on in the midwest had a lot of clover.  Then we got weed killers and nitrogen fertilizer, grass catchers and irrigation, and the modern carpet-like lawns resulted.

It's easy to convert back to clover.  We just don't use chemicals.  I did buy packages of Dutch clover seeds, and planted bare spots - mainly  mole hills - with clover.  When mowed in late bloom, the lawn mower spread the seeds all over, and the clover lawn results.  We didn't even try, it was just nature's way.

Clover adds a lot of nitrogen to the soil, so grass also benefits.  In the wet spring, it's mostly grass.  In the dry summer, mostly clover.  Listening in the evening, there is buzzing everywhere.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 5, 2014 at 2:05pm

Daniel, your front yard i beautiful! I have never seen a glover yard before and it is just perfect. Your sunroom looks so pretty and I can just imagine how much pleasure you get puttering there. The bee photo captures the mood and value of clover in ways that will entice others to create such a haven for bees. Thanks for sharing. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on July 5, 2014 at 1:58pm

I like your front yard lawn, but probably not as much as the bees.

Comment by Daniel W on July 5, 2014 at 1:57pm

Joan, our garlic lasted until now, so it was ideal.  And now the new batch.  So glad you like it!  I like the idea of it as much as the real thing.  I love crushing it and using on spagetti with some olive oil and parmesan.  But I only do that on the weekend - people might have trouble with the scent if on a workday :-)

Comment by Daniel W on July 5, 2014 at 1:54pm

Yet another bee photo.  The front yard clover is blooming like crazy.   I'm truly hoping for some honey this year, even if only a cup.

The lawn / clover field.   When the clover blossoms dry out, I will mow again.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 4, 2014 at 11:09pm

Daniel, I forgot to tell you we have been eating your garlic for several weeks now, and they are delicious. Nicely flavorful, not too hot and they seem to like my stomach just fine. Or is it that my stomach likes them? 

Your potatoes look perfect, no blemishes or bruises. Nice clear skin. Are they nicely firm all the way to the middle? I can only imagine the flavor of freshly dug potatoes. Do you have fresh peas to go with them? With a little salt, pepper and butter! Oh, how I remember Grandma's early summer potatoes and peas. 

Comment by Daniel W on July 4, 2014 at 9:54pm

Joan, your soil sounds wonderful.  

Randal, so does your harvest!  It will be great to pull fresh veggies out of the freezer this winter for a hearty stew.

Today I harvested a bed of garlic.  Nice big garlic bulbs, Inchelium Red, a Pacific NW Native American variety.

Also, saw a couple of potato plants were turning brown, so dug them out.

Comment by Joan Denoo on July 4, 2014 at 8:01am

Randall, or do you prefer Randy?

I didn't understand what living abundantly meant until I put in our first garden on this site 40 years ago this year. The ground was pure peat moss, a remnant of the last Ice Age, wet spongy ground of decomposing vegetation. It has poorer drainage than a swamp because there is no drainage. The pure peat is unfit for cultivation. That first year I grew incredible cattails (Typha latifolia) and horsetails (Equisetum).

I brought in truckloads of sand and clay, and barnyard manure, borrowed a farmer's garden tiller and gave it a mighty tilling. The following years my crops were so abundant that I took bushels of vegetables to the local community center. Since then, I put on lots of steer manure and glacial sand. 

My three children grew up, moved on and all that room for fruits and vegetables was just not needed any more. 

Eighteen years ago I designed a meditation garden in honor of my son, Craig's, wedding. we had the grooms dinner in the new garden and it has been a place of celebration ever since. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on July 4, 2014 at 7:46am

Randy, I'll bet if you contacted nearest food bank they would send someone to help prevent you from drowning in green! 

Comment by Randall Smith on July 4, 2014 at 7:16am

Ever hear of drowning in the garden? Well, that's happening to me. Too much, too fast. Peas, asparagus, lettuce, chard, kale, now green beans and brocolli. It's a GREEN overload! And I've blanched and frozen bags of it. Freezer is now packed with veggies and berries. And wouldn't you know it, my local blueberry farm is opening up next week. HELP!


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