Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Friday. 15 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 24. 3 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on June 22, 2017 at 2:19pm

Randy, they keep bare roit trees in refrigerated warehouse to keep thrm dornsnt.  I hope. 

Sounds like a great collection of nut trees!

Kathy, your yard sounds beautiful.

BB I envy you that you can grow hollyhocks.  Mine succumb to disease and deer.  No malva species does well for me.  But I have lots of other things to grow.

Knee still hurts so I am doing nothing much.  Kind of frustrated but not as bad as 2 days ago.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 22, 2017 at 11:06am

Randy, how many roots do they have?

Comment by Randall Smith on June 22, 2017 at 9:33am

My 13 nut trees arrived yesterday. They look like long sticks. I ordered 3-4' tall ones, but these are 5-6'! As Daniel suggested, I stuck them in water to give them a good soaking. There's no green on them, but I do see buds. Coming from Georgia, I'm surprised they aren't leafed out. Wonder why not?

In case you're curious, I got 4 Northern James pecan trees, 3 English walnuts, 3 "Pee Wee Hican Pecan" (pecan/hickory) trees, 2 Heartnut walnut, and 1 Flibert tree. All for $78.11 including shipping.  Two or three trees will be planted in my yard, and the rest will go to the farm As far as I know, they don't need cross pollination. Hope I live long enough to get some nuts from them!

Comment by kathy: ky on June 21, 2017 at 10:23pm
Bert, here they bloom every year. I've found a lot of annuals will become perennials if I just leave them in the ground. I first noticed it with salvia. I didn't get around to pulling it out in the winter so when I was clearing bed's for spring I saw new greenery starting at the bottom of what appeared to be a dead plant. I left them and they continued to live four five years. Marigold will too. It's surprising how many annuals will live.

My butterfly bushes are blooming in and the sunflowers. A calla lilly that has been a dark maroon color for many years has bloomed in pink. It's lovely.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 20, 2017 at 7:26pm

Do annuals or biennials turn into perennials sometimes? We have a pair of hollyhocks that have been coming back for like six or seven years now.

Comment by Daniel W on June 20, 2017 at 6:56pm

Joan, that tree is amazing!

Today as I was watering I think it really sunk in that I cant do as much any more.  I love doing it, but hurt back last week and knee this week.  Really need to find less laborious ways.

I did prune tomatoes today.  Need to check on whether Romas benefit from pruning too.  I think thay are determinate and dont get pruned.

On the plus side, persimmon is blooming!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2017 at 2:23pm

We all probably saw this video before, but it is so timely with your discussion of tree grafts, I want to share it again. 

The Tree of 40 Fruits


Sam Van Aken, Associate Professor of Sculpture at Syracuse University, an artist with a passion for stone fruit discusses his recent sculpture designs It is at home in the fruit orchard and in the art gallery.

Comment by Daniel W on June 19, 2017 at 10:24pm

Kathy, they usually fuse together so well, it becomes difficult to find the graft union in a few years.  The method that I use does not leave any exposed wood, and the wrapping method gives a uniform pressure across the graft union.  That results in complete fusion of scion and understock woods.  If tne two have different color or different texture bark, then it is easier to identify the graft site.

Comment by kathy: ky on June 19, 2017 at 4:47pm
Daniel, those grafts are beautiful. Do any of them refuse to take or leave a lump where the grafts are??
Comment by kathy: ky on June 19, 2017 at 10:34am
Spud, I have plenty of snakes and won't let anyone harm them. I was weeding a bed and put my hand right on a little brown snake. It just slithered away. I wear leather gloves so they don't bother me. Black snakes are plentiful here. Because I see so many I've read up on how to spot posion ones. Triangular shape head and blunt tails are the giveaways.

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