Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Daniel W on October 10, 2017 at 10:32am

Spud, glad you are getting those skin cancers taken off!  Once they're gone, they're gone.

Randy, sounds like some persimmon pie or pudding in the future!

Spud, I hope your pipes are intact.

Joan, thank you for the turnip info.  I will keep that in mind for the next crop.  My soil is about pH 5.3 to 5.5 although the raised beds got some lime and I haven't checked since then.  My mother's dad used to raise turnips and give them to her.  They were tenant farmers, and often their only meal would be a turnip sandwich. 

My plans for today:  Coffee with a friend, then head to my orchard to check on persimmons and apples.  No more pears here.  It was a poor year for pears in my yard.  Randy, do you store them in fridge and ripen later, or let them ripen on the tree?  Tomorrow I'm having a tree guy cut down a very large,m dead, cherry tree that I've been procrastinating for 2 years, at my old place.  He will supply a truck load of chopped tree chips from that and other trees, which will be used for mulch.  Hauling and spreading mulch will be the main October projects.

My mother's Dad, undated photo.  Maybe 1930s.

My grandparents as I remember them, in the 60s.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 10, 2017 at 9:03am

Randy, I have a neighbor across the street that will take all the pears I don't use.  Cars sailing past your place probably don't want to stop, but they're missing-out on some good food.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 10, 2017 at 7:19am

Today, I'm going to squeeze out persimmon pulp--not one of my favorite things to do. I have a pulp grinder which is difficult to handle, especially with seedy persimmons.

I set a basket of pears out by the road with a "free" sign. Not one pear has been taken after 3 days. People are in too much of a hurry to stop, I reckon. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 9, 2017 at 10:00pm

Daniel, having raised beds makes it easier to control the elements of gardening, as you well know. Here is an old worksheet I use for turnips; you obviously don't need this; perhaps others will find the information useful. 



Requires well-drained soil. Water turnips during times of drought, but otherwise avoid watering to the point of saturation.


Sandy and loamy soils tend to provide the best drainage.

If your soil contains large amounts of clay, improve texture and drainage by incorporating sand or gypsum into the soil. 

Soil pH

Turnips grow best in mildly acidic soils, with an ideal pH between 6.0 and 6.5. 

To raise the pH of soil, incorporate lime into the soil. Ground agricultural limestone is a common liming material, but dolomite and a number of alternative liming materials can also be effective. 

To lower the pH incorporate sulfur or a sulfur compound like aluminum sulfate. 

Adding organic matter to the soil will also lower the pH gradually over time.


Turnips grow best in soil rich in organic matter.

Incorporate a generous amount of compost into the soil before planting to help supply turnips with necessary nutrients.

Commercial fertilizers are not necessary, but applying a 5-10-10 fertilizer at a rate of 3 pounds per 100 feet is generally beneficial. 

A soil test will reveal if additional fertilization is necessary.

Soil Testing

Soil testing is the most effective way to understand the nutrient content of your soil. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 9, 2017 at 9:38pm

Spud, I am happy to learn that you are tending to a carcinoma on your face. Farmers in the Palouse often have them and tend to them at once.  

OOPPSS, I hope your copper lines didn't crack. I hate losing a copper fitting, although when they do crack they often give me beautiful sprays of water shooting into the sky forming rainbows. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 9, 2017 at 5:12pm

The government weather forcast for this morning was above freezing, but I woke to 24 F!

I had a dermatologist appoinment, but I hurridly shut the outside water off & opened the drain and all outside valves before going to get a carcinoma excised from my face.  

Haven't checked my copper line going to the swamp cooler for cracks yet.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 9, 2017 at 3:24pm

That's a wonderful harvest Daniel.

Comment by Daniel W on October 9, 2017 at 12:35pm

Joan, yes!  It's from a raised bed that I constructed this summer and filled with some soil that I've been enriching for years in the old garden.  I guess it's good soil :-)  Haven't tasted it yet.

Patricia, it probably would feed a lot of people.

Not sure how we will cook it yet.  Roasted vs. stir fried vs. mashed.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 8, 2017 at 9:32pm

Daniel. is that turnip from your garden? Wow! How does it taste? 

Comment by Patricia on October 8, 2017 at 9:27pm

Wow, that would feed half the neighbourhood! Looks great.


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