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Comment by kathy: ky on October 20, 2017 at 3:35pm
Thomas, I like to leave the fields tall because it does allow more animal and beneficial insects to live. It seems like everything is a trade off.
I saw an owl sitting in the backyard last night. It was huge. I imagine it was feasting on the voles,mice, moles and other things that are often distructive to the yard but also beneficial.

Birds: has anyone else tried the old trick of tying two aluminum pie pans together and attaching them to a stake in the garden to keep the birds away? As long as there's a breeze it works very well.
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 20, 2017 at 3:31pm

Thomas, thank you for your informative comment, especially describing your experience with wildlife and the field. 

We keep our field mowed, but only about twice a summer. The raised beds that Laura and Larry created for me have very rich compost that has been there two winters. Now, it is an unplanted, unplowed, unmowed set of boxes filled with voluntary weeds and flowers that the birds and wind bring in. I like the wildness of these boxes, even as I see countless moles holes. There are vole holes as well, I discovered, but I have yet to see one. 

Turkeys, a few rabbits, chickadees, blue jays, crows, and other wild birds seem to like the raised bed boxes with weeds going to seed. 

I don't think your comment was long at all. It is full of information and thoughts that I enjoy reading. 

Comment by Thomas Murray on October 20, 2017 at 2:52pm

Daniel ,

 I inspected my apple tree and there some buds left that haven't flowered yet. So hopefully these buds will hold until Spring 2018 comes around. Most of the petals are gone now and the branches are still pliable. Home Depot still have a few fruit trees at half price.There are about 6 ft tall. I am thinking about going to buy these fruit trees and plant them in my yard. When I see these plants are not watered or cared for properly I buy them up for reduced cost. You know like the animal rescuers or humane society so perhaps being a plant rescuer is a new vocation for me.

About vole, mole, and gopher infestations...

   When we first bought this home almost three years ago the well kept field did not have many holes. I assumed they were gopher or vole holes. The first Summer I kept the field mowed to about 5 inches. Hardly any wildlife came around, except the deer that traverse the stream every evening around 6 p.m. The second and third Summers I did not mow the field. During the two Summers there were more deer and they were venturing closer to the house, about 20 feet away from our back porch. This was also when we first saw wild turkeys with their broods strutting their stuff across our tall grass fields. Every once in a while we could spot something black/brown darting in and out of our field. I am assuming these are minks. There were also more colorful birds.So a week ago I decided to mow the field for reasons to keep the ticks in control and to rid fire fuel. WHOA! There are now many more holes than there were two Summers ago. So I am guessing that the tall grasses provided more food and shelter for the critters to expand their family and they are more freely traveled without the threat from hawks and owls.

  So... having tall grass and weeds means more voles that will feed the hawks, minks, owls and snakes but we suffer the multitudes of holes, ticks, and destruction of plants OR keep the grass short thus less wildlife. I do not want to use pest poison to kill the voles because other wildlife will eat the poisoned voles.

Sorry for my long rant.....

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 1:52pm

I don't think my outdoor faucets or copper line to the evaporative cooler were damaged by the surprise cold snap a couple of weeks ago.  I drained them in time.

When Joan asked me about draining my lines, I said they were all hoses, but forgot about the copper line, and that I had about 3 feet of metal pipes going to 3 valves.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 10:40am

Daniel & Joan, I'm here, just lost ambition I guess.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 10:18am

A week or so ago, one of my traps caught another mouse.  I need to get outside, go around the house, and find where they're getting in.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 10:17am

Daniel, about your deer, I have a hard time finding animals beautiful that eat all my hard work.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 10:15am

Daniel, are you OK with us going off-topic once in a while?

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 9:14am

I've never had a lathe but used a couple once.  Don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I took a metalworking & woodworking class 50 years ago in California.   Made a non-sparking hammer with the metal lathe and with the wood lathe made reflectors for two large speaker housings I made.  

I put speakers pointing up so the sound bounced off the reflectors into all parts of the room.  I made the cabinet 6-sided, covered with cork board.  Beautiful if I do say so myself.  Sold them to my brother years ago and he's still using them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 19, 2017 at 11:04pm

Daniel, all the wooden bowls, gavels, and table legs left my possession long ago. The first three years of our marriage we lived in student housing while Don finished his dental training. We went to Wildwood Station, Alaska, near Kenai, for two years while Don completed his obligation to the army. We settled nicely into a small home until Don reenlisted and served in Vietnam. Then, it was twenty years of moving every two years where we lived in military housing. Along the way, my parents sold their home that I grew up in, and they moved into a small apartment. Long story made short, My desk and chests that Dad made me and all of my wood projects left the Denoo domain to unknown places. We didn't have cameras in those days, and I have no photos. 

I was very active in high school groups, i.e., Latin Club, TriSci Club, student body offices and I gave my handmade gavels to each group. I wonder if those teams still exist and if they continue to use my gavels?

I do have one piece that Dad and I made, a ceramic wall hanging mounted on a piece of wood. 


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