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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Comment by kathy: ky on October 20, 2017 at 8:08pm
Spud, that's one I've never heard of. Was it in the garden section of the store? How did you attach the strips to the trees??
Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 4:05pm

Kathy, I've never tried the aluminum pie pan method of scaring birds, but I did buy plastic strips with hundreds of laser created spots that look like eyes.  I put them in my cherry trees and they kept the birds from eating all my cherries.  It appeared they ate none after that.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 3:59pm

Having large piles of tree chips is probably going to breed mice, even in the middle of the city.  The one I found in the house may be the start of that.  I plan on spreading them out over my whole place, which should cut-down on the breeding.

Comment by Idaho Spud on October 20, 2017 at 3:55pm

Thomas, wish I had the land to be a plant rescuer like you :)

Hope you get some apples in the spring.

To mow, or not to mow, that is the question.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 20, 2017 at 3:43pm

Spud, I am happy to learn you did not get flooded out with broken pipes, or fall into a mole hole. I always look for your comments and enjoy the things you write. Keep it up, if you have time, please. 

Comment by kathy: ky on October 20, 2017 at 3:39pm
Spud, I lose ambition this time of year too. When the growth has stopped for the season and all that's left is the clean up. Especially with the daylight hours fast disappearing.
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 20, 2017 at 3:37pm

I wrote messages to Chris (CA) and Spud to inquire how they are doing. I received an answer from Chis, but I could find only part of it. The rest of the comment seems to have gone into thin air and not to be opened. I check my Gmail, and the other obvious places to look and could find nothing more. Here is Chris' partial comment is: 

"Regarding the fire,

"Residents living on road up the hill were evacuated. Neighbors with respriatory problems left. I have a 'fly-a-way kit" ready  when it comes time for me to evacuate.  That includ..."
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Happily, Spud responded to the group and brought us up to date on his activities. 

Comment by kathy: ky on October 20, 2017 at 3:35pm
Thomas, I like to leave the fields tall because it does allow more animal and beneficial insects to live. It seems like everything is a trade off.
I saw an owl sitting in the backyard last night. It was huge. I imagine it was feasting on the voles,mice, moles and other things that are often distructive to the yard but also beneficial.

Birds: has anyone else tried the old trick of tying two aluminum pie pans together and attaching them to a stake in the garden to keep the birds away? As long as there's a breeze it works very well.
Comment by Joan Denoo on October 20, 2017 at 3:31pm

Thomas, thank you for your informative comment, especially describing your experience with wildlife and the field. 

We keep our field mowed, but only about twice a summer. The raised beds that Laura and Larry created for me have very rich compost that has been there two winters. Now, it is an unplanted, unplowed, unmowed set of boxes filled with voluntary weeds and flowers that the birds and wind bring in. I like the wildness of these boxes, even as I see countless moles holes. There are vole holes as well, I discovered, but I have yet to see one. 

Turkeys, a few rabbits, chickadees, blue jays, crows, and other wild birds seem to like the raised bed boxes with weeds going to seed. 

I don't think your comment was long at all. It is full of information and thoughts that I enjoy reading. 

Comment by Thomas Murray on October 20, 2017 at 2:52pm

Daniel ,

 I inspected my apple tree and there some buds left that haven't flowered yet. So hopefully these buds will hold until Spring 2018 comes around. Most of the petals are gone now and the branches are still pliable. Home Depot still have a few fruit trees at half price.There are about 6 ft tall. I am thinking about going to buy these fruit trees and plant them in my yard. When I see these plants are not watered or cared for properly I buy them up for reduced cost. You know like the animal rescuers or humane society so perhaps being a plant rescuer is a new vocation for me.

About vole, mole, and gopher infestations...

   When we first bought this home almost three years ago the well kept field did not have many holes. I assumed they were gopher or vole holes. The first Summer I kept the field mowed to about 5 inches. Hardly any wildlife came around, except the deer that traverse the stream every evening around 6 p.m. The second and third Summers I did not mow the field. During the two Summers there were more deer and they were venturing closer to the house, about 20 feet away from our back porch. This was also when we first saw wild turkeys with their broods strutting their stuff across our tall grass fields. Every once in a while we could spot something black/brown darting in and out of our field. I am assuming these are minks. There were also more colorful birds.So a week ago I decided to mow the field for reasons to keep the ticks in control and to rid fire fuel. WHOA! There are now many more holes than there were two Summers ago. So I am guessing that the tall grasses provided more food and shelter for the critters to expand their family and they are more freely traveled without the threat from hawks and owls.

  So... having tall grass and weeds means more voles that will feed the hawks, minks, owls and snakes but we suffer the multitudes of holes, ticks, and destruction of plants OR keep the grass short thus less wildlife. I do not want to use pest poison to kill the voles because other wildlife will eat the poisoned voles.

Sorry for my long rant.....

 

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