Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Discussing all aspect of gardening.

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Comment by Idaho Spud on June 3, 2018 at 7:46am

Good job Randy.  Trees are wonderful.  

With 150 year history, I can see why you want to help keep the farm going.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 3, 2018 at 7:14am

While this group is primarily about out own personal gardens, I'm going to expand the size to our 120 acre organic vegetable farm.

I recently bought $4200 worth of trees: poplar, oaks, nuts, fruit, evergreens. They're for windbreaks, produce, and just plain looks (nothing nicer than a majestic oak tree).

Well, guess who's been planting them? Yep--yours truly, one at a time. They average about 2 feet tall. Yesterday, I watered them from a 300 gallon tank on a tractor. (No photos unfortunately. Maybe later.)

I don't imagine I'll live long enough to see the "fruits of my labor", but that's okay. I'm doing it for my kids and grandkids and the glory of a farm that's been in our family for over 150 years. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 27, 2018 at 7:37am

I couldn't find your Gardening Without God group, on Atheist Nexis.  Did find this site.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 27, 2018 at 6:59am

"Godless in the Garden" is still here--at least for me. Daniel never eliminated it. I'll look for your new group, Joan.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 26, 2018 at 3:22pm

I tried to find this site yesterday, unsuccessfully. Where did you find it, Randy? I created a new group, Gardening Without God, but I much rather have Dan's old site. I will post here from now on if I can find it. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 26, 2018 at 6:36am

My garden still looks more brown than green, but I am "harvesting"  three things out of it: asparagus, strawberries, and rhubarb (all perennials). In fact, my meals revolve around the use of these 3. Lettuce should be next, maybe snow peas. I decided no radishes this year.

Anybody else have anything?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 20, 2018 at 1:54am

Yes, I miss Daniel, too. Hopefully, he experiences some peace and quiet as he continues his struggle with medication to stave off cancer. It is dreadful stuff. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 19, 2018 at 7:40am

Good stuff, Joan. Yes, watering and weeding can be a chore. Too bad you can't have rain barrels. They work for me (I have two).

I mostly hoe weeds, but I do lay down dog food bags between rows to help. It's a hassle, however, to try to keep them in place. I use bricks, wood, rocks, dirt clogs, pipes, etc., but it makes for difficult walking! I do roto-till, but sparingly. Despite 40 years of "cultivating", the soil is still mostly clay which hardens like concrete when dry and compacted.

But, oh the joys of gardening! I sure miss Daniel in this group.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 7:07pm

Spud, I would give the tree tender loving care for the summer and if it does not revive by next spring, give up and plant a new one. 

I don't pull weeds anymore I use cardboard over a patch I want to plant and cover it with compost, worm castings, well-composted manure and garden soil. That will give you the finest soil you could possibly want. 

I suspect your growing area is as dry as mine here at L&L's. Do you sequester water? I would have a rain barrel at every downspout of the rain gutters, covered with fine screen to prevent bugs from growing in the standing water. I would have spigots at the bottom with a hose attached to drain off as much water as I needed. In Spokane, I had a soaker hose going off the rain barrel. 

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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 6:53pm

Randy, have you tried no-till gardening. I have been doing it for years and I have virtually no work, except for those danged weeds that find a nude piece of earth and settle in. They are easy to pull up, at least at my Spokane home because I have 42 years of enriching the soils with compost, worm castings, well-composted manure, and cardboard wherever a rogue weed settles in. 

I can't get a vegetable garden growing at my home in the forest. We sit on the top of huge sand dune left over from the ice age, and when I water the garden our well goes dry. So I gave up on my four raised beds. I continue to request help in sequestering rainwater, but L & L don't want rain barrels off the roofs. 

I grow what I can in the greenhouse and carry water from the hose by the gallons or string a hose. When I use a hose, I get worn out and don't have the energy to work on the plants. I bought lighter hoses and that works well, until it is time to wind them up. We need a hose bib at the greenhouse and a power winder. 


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