Godless in the garden


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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 26, 2018 at 3:22pm

I tried to find this site yesterday, unsuccessfully. Where did you find it, Randy? I created a new group, Gardening Without God, but I much rather have Dan's old site. I will post here from now on if I can find it. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 26, 2018 at 6:36am

My garden still looks more brown than green, but I am "harvesting"  three things out of it: asparagus, strawberries, and rhubarb (all perennials). In fact, my meals revolve around the use of these 3. Lettuce should be next, maybe snow peas. I decided no radishes this year.

Anybody else have anything?

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 20, 2018 at 1:54am

Yes, I miss Daniel, too. Hopefully, he experiences some peace and quiet as he continues his struggle with medication to stave off cancer. It is dreadful stuff. 

Comment by Randall Smith on May 19, 2018 at 7:40am

Good stuff, Joan. Yes, watering and weeding can be a chore. Too bad you can't have rain barrels. They work for me (I have two).

I mostly hoe weeds, but I do lay down dog food bags between rows to help. It's a hassle, however, to try to keep them in place. I use bricks, wood, rocks, dirt clogs, pipes, etc., but it makes for difficult walking! I do roto-till, but sparingly. Despite 40 years of "cultivating", the soil is still mostly clay which hardens like concrete when dry and compacted.

But, oh the joys of gardening! I sure miss Daniel in this group.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 7:07pm

Spud, I would give the tree tender loving care for the summer and if it does not revive by next spring, give up and plant a new one. 

I don't pull weeds anymore I use cardboard over a patch I want to plant and cover it with compost, worm castings, well-composted manure and garden soil. That will give you the finest soil you could possibly want. 

I suspect your growing area is as dry as mine here at L&L's. Do you sequester water? I would have a rain barrel at every downspout of the rain gutters, covered with fine screen to prevent bugs from growing in the standing water. I would have spigots at the bottom with a hose attached to drain off as much water as I needed. In Spokane, I had a soaker hose going off the rain barrel. 

Here is Justin Rhodes new training video:


Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 6:53pm

Randy, have you tried no-till gardening. I have been doing it for years and I have virtually no work, except for those danged weeds that find a nude piece of earth and settle in. They are easy to pull up, at least at my Spokane home because I have 42 years of enriching the soils with compost, worm castings, well-composted manure, and cardboard wherever a rogue weed settles in. 

I can't get a vegetable garden growing at my home in the forest. We sit on the top of huge sand dune left over from the ice age, and when I water the garden our well goes dry. So I gave up on my four raised beds. I continue to request help in sequestering rainwater, but L & L don't want rain barrels off the roofs. 

I grow what I can in the greenhouse and carry water from the hose by the gallons or string a hose. When I use a hose, I get worn out and don't have the energy to work on the plants. I bought lighter hoses and that works well, until it is time to wind them up. We need a hose bib at the greenhouse and a power winder. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 17, 2018 at 6:44pm

I follow this family since the youngest one was nursing; I've watched these kids grow through the years and am amazed at how self-sufficient these youngsters developed.  This film is after years of daily vlogging, telling their story of beginning a homestead, their challenges, and their solutions. They grow 75% of their food, including chickens, cows, pigs, and a vegetable garden. There always exists a problem to solve and they do every day. Well, now they produce educational videos and cover problems as they emerge on the homestead and with the family. I hope you enjoy them as much as I do. 


Comment by Randall Smith on May 7, 2018 at 7:41am

I'll finally answer your question, Spud!

I don't bury my rabbit fence, but I do line it with soil. Upon my trip return, I see peas and lettuce popping up, despite a lack of rain.

Hope your avocado tree comes alive. I've lost all my blueberry bushes. I'm giving up on ever having any.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 21, 2018 at 7:07am

Randy, do you need to bury the rabbit fence in the ground to keep them out?

Two days ago, I dug out most of the dandelions in my garden and watered my avocado tree.  It looks totally dead but I'll wait a couple of months to make sure.

Comment by Randall Smith on April 21, 2018 at 6:59am

FINALLY! I was able to work in the garden! 

First, I tilled (about half). Then I put up my chickenwire "rabbit obstacle" fence. That's where I will plant (today) my lettuce, spinach, peas, and other greens that rabbits love to eat. Outside the fence, I planted two rows each of potatoes and onions. Potatoes are leftover "nubbin's" from last year. They may not turn out too great.


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