Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Loam Gnome on June 19, 2018 at 3:51pm

Joan, thank you for the info about dinosaurs.  Such interesting reading!  There's an interesting book, called "The Ghosts of Evolution", regarding plants that the author calls "Evolutionary anachronisms".  She used that term, because the animals that those plants interacted with, and that dispersed the seeds, no longer exist.  For example, the acrid odor of ginkgo was thought to attract carnivores in the Cretaceous era, who dispersed the seeds.  Persimmons and pawpaws are also considered evolutionary anachronisms, because the seeds are not easily dispersed by existing animals.  The thought is that mastodons or other megafauna were better suited to disperse both persimmon and pawpaw seeds.

Thank you Randy.  I consider the members of this group, treasured friends.

On strawberries, here are mine.   They are in raised beds.  The variety is TriStar, an everbearing type, I think.  I kept wondering why they didn't grow, until I saw deer standing at the bed treating it like a salad bar.  Since putting in the fencing protection, the plants are doing much better.

Here are some petunias.  They are an experiment to see if deer eat them.  So far, they have not.

And a plant called "Sysrichium striatum"  I saw on my recent trip to Luther Burbank's home and garden in Santa Rosa, California.  On return, I looked for some, and found them at a local nursery.

I planted this gallardia last summer.  It survived the winter and looks nice now.

I think it will be a nice year for figs.  They are my favorite.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 19, 2018 at 6:53am

I recognize strawberry plants, Patricia. My season is over. But red (and black) raspberries are abundant. So much so, I may have to make wine out of them, although it takes a lot of berries and time.

So nice to have "Loam" back!

Comment by Patricia on June 18, 2018 at 11:10pm

The greenhouse....

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2018 at 9:41pm

I have no idea what a Velociraptors is, although I was a participant in a dig that obtained a dinosaur/bird specimen, Archaeopteryx, for a museum in Central Texas. This word is new to me. There are so many different myths easily available, it is difficult to sort out the facts from fiction. 

It seems the Veloci+raptor, modern Latin velox, quick)+ rapto,  thief, was just above the knee of a modern human. Depictions of it are horrifying.

In reality, Velociraptor looks like a modern bird to me. It measured 6-feet long and about 2 feet high at the hip. 

I found all the information on these three dinosaurs in Wikipedia and the Latin dictionary. The inquiries reflect my questions and perhaps you had questions as well. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2018 at 9:22pm

What have I forgotten about Triceratops? Oh! Yes, this was also a gigantic beast compared to modern humans. It ate only plants, yet I imagine it was a massive, frightening beast to other animals. It lived about 68 million years ago. It was similar to the modern rhinoceros.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2018 at 9:10pm

Tyrannosaurus rex, a genus of the coelurosaurian theropod dinosaur, lived during the of the upper Cretaceous Period, from 68 to 66 million years ago. It died out in the Cretacious Paleogene extinction events.

Compared to modern humans, it was quite a beast. I think of it and Sigourney Weaver in, OH! what was that movie? Geological Timeline

Geologic Time Line 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2018 at 8:45pm

Our spring was so cold and wet, all my seeds molded in the ground, even of the greenhouse. I started a few plants after that in a seeding box under a grow light. That seems to work better. I still don't have them in the garden because of lack of energy, not lack of desire. I enjoy my naps!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 18, 2018 at 8:41pm

Your garden looks healthy and full of promise for delicious eating. 

I am still learning how to grow in a greenhouse. I discovered all the wrong ways to design and care for plants last year; this year, I did a little better. I still do not have the energy for the raised beds in the meadow.  Perhaps, next year I will plan and implement my ideas for the far northern climate better. 

I wish I had Patricia and Rick to guide me along the way. 

Comment by Patricia on June 18, 2018 at 7:23pm


We spent the afternoon there, & they have a restaurant too, so being in the middle of nowhere, it was great to have a place to eat, & have a coffee.

Yes, I've read about the gingko, but not much about the monkey tree.

Comment by Loam Gnome on June 18, 2018 at 7:15pm

Patricia, I would love to go to a fossil museum. One of these days..

In my garden, I also have a number of ginkgo trees, which were also known from their fossil history, before they were known in person, and which were also found in China.  I tried growing Monkey Puzzle tree, which is also a living fossil, but it died.  So I'm happy with what I'm growing.


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