Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Idaho Spud on August 22, 2018 at 7:41am

Randy, that's sad.  I've never wanted to try farming of any kind for a living.  It would be too stressful for me.

If I had the money, I'd buy quite a few acres and grow large gardens and quite a few fruit & nut trees.  Probably have 3 acres of things to eat, but wouldn't try to make a living from them.  Perhaps just sell a few things and trade some for milk.

Comment by Randall Smith on August 22, 2018 at 7:29am

Thanks, Joan and Daniel. I'll keep you up to date. And thanks for the video info. Sorry to hear you both "poop out" easily. Keeping up with life's loves t'aint easy.

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 22, 2018 at 12:16am

Oh! Randy! I am sorry to learn of the struggle of Silverthornfarm! Their kind of farming is very hard work and successful only where people understand the value of this kind of farming. Of course, cheaper food can be found at box stores and buyers give up quality. The CSA that I participated with went under and there is no other produce market that has as high quality as theirs. 

I can work very little these days, a few hours at household tasks and then lay-back time and I watch permaculture videos; a few more hours in the greenhouse, and another lay-back; a couple of hours preparing dinner for the family and clean up and then another lay-back time but this one lasts all night. However, I have a few farmers that you may be able to share with your Silverthornfarm family. 

Ben Falk, Farm and Homestead Resiliency Principles in Practice.

Justin Rhodes, the Great American Farm Tour 

Mark, I am Organic Gardening

Curtis Stone, Urban Farmer

Comment by Loam Gnome on August 21, 2018 at 10:33pm

Randy, Im sad to learn of your family farm struggle. 

I also love sun flowers.  Deer eat mine but thete is a volunteer plant among the fenced beans.  Which also did not do well - I was too worn out to properly care for them.

Today I cleaned up a border at the woods edge.  It didnt need a lot.  Over the past few years, I cleared blackberries, and planted trees, perennials, and rhododendrons. It's in an area where deer hang out, rabbits graze, and hard to reach with hose.  Last year I mulched with arborist chips.  Today I applied a truckload of bark chips.  My hope is next year or two it wont need water or weeding, and after that will be shady and somewhat self mulching by the trees I planted.

Some flowers today.

There are a few orchids blooming on my deck.

Comment by Randall Smith on August 21, 2018 at 7:27am

I love sunflowers. I have a few "volunteers" in my garden. My farm kids used to grow and sell them--not now.

Speaking of them, they continue to struggle with making ends meet. They're forced to cut back on their operation. They'll most likely stop CSA sales. The cost of boxing up individual orders and delivering them is not profitable. Plus, people would rather buy cheap from the chain stores who are now delivering to their doors. Bottom line: things look bleak. So sad and depressing. Silverthornfarm.com (and on Facebook)

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 20, 2018 at 1:44pm

This is a commercial production; I like sunflowers in my gardens, especially with varied varieties. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 20, 2018 at 3:11am

There used to be a corn called Kandy Kane that had a pencil-thin cob; it could be blanched and packaged for freezing on the cob. It was a delicious, sweet variety. For some reason, that variety stopped being distributed and I can find no company that supplies it.  If anyone finds it, let me know!

Comment by Randall Smith on August 19, 2018 at 7:09am

I'm with you, Daniel: I avoid the issues that upset me here at A/N. I want to live out the rest of my life in serenity and happiness. I'll let others fight the battles. (Don't tell Loren!)

Regarding sweet corn: I both boil it and/or nuke it for several minutes (at lest 5), rapidly cool it in ice water. I have a cutting board with a nail sticking up where I insert the cob. It's in a large plastic container. I use a knife to cut off the kernels, then bag it and freeze. There are other methods, but this works best for me. I don't like freezing the entire corn cob. Takes up too much room.

Comment by Loam Gnome on August 18, 2018 at 9:50am

Randy thank you!  I missed you and the other people who write to this group.  You are the only ones who I have to talk about gardening, and I'm very happy it's among nontheist people.

I was having a rough time last winter and the political aspects of Nexus were too much for me.  I have learned to avoid those.

I don't know what to do with extra sweet corn!  Freeze it?  I sort of remember, it freezes better if blanched?

Spud, your weather this summer sounds like mine.  On some days, gardening feels more like a chore than a joy.  That is days when I'm out watering for an hour in the hot sun at 100F.  However, yesterday was cooler and much more enjoyable. 

A few years ago, I wanted to grow historic varieties of bearded irises, and set up raised beds for them.   These tough, resilient plants basically rotted, with fungal and bacterial diseases.  I gave up on them, and last year planted the remaining plants at the border of our woodlot.  There they flourished, now very lush and strong.  Meanwhile, I had raised the level of the beds another foot and added that much soil on top of the dying iris plants.  They grow through the foot of soil, and look good.  So I have been replanting in a different bed, where I had sweetcorn 3 years ago then left fallow.  We'll see how they do.

I love looking at bearded irises in bloom.  They are tough resilient plants.  Deer dont eat them.  I guess I was killing them with kindness.  The only risk is, this area is on an easement, so at some point the spot could be turned into a road.  I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

These are two types of Romas.  The smaller one is called "Ranger".  The larger one was grown from Burpee seeds, called "Big Mama".  I think the Ranger was more productive.  Both went into tomato sauce.

Comment by Randall Smith on August 18, 2018 at 7:08am

So glad you've returned to A/N, "Loam"! I enjoy your photos and comments.

I have so much sweet corn, I don't know what to do. Sharing with neighbors is one thing. My freezer is full.


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