Godless in the garden


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Comment by Loam Gnome on September 28, 2018 at 2:51pm

Randy, I have not read Wendell Berry, so I looked him up.  I enjoyed reading a few of his quotes, such as "Don't own so much clutter that you will be relieved to see your house catch fire.” ― Wendell Berry, Farming: a hand book and “Be joyful because it is humanly possible.” ― Wendell Berry .  These are on the site "Goodreads", along with a lot of others.  He seems to make a lot of statements, and from those it's possible to pick and choose the ones we feel comfortable with or inspired by. 

I've been looking at some old iris varieties, on Old House Gardens.  I grew some before.  When I was down with cancer treatment and work, I couldn't maintain my bearded irises.  Plus, I had coddled them with compost and nutrients, they were too lush, many rotted, and weeds took over.  I decided to try again.

Modern irises are more exuberant.  But these historic ones touch something in me.  These photos are from previous years.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 25, 2018 at 7:27am

Thanks for the condolences, Joan and Daniel.

I'm involved in the decision making (since it's my land), and it isn't easy. I'm a co-signer on loans and fear the worst. Our dreams have turned to nightmares. But, as the kids said in their newsletter, we're adjusting and refocusing, cutting back and streamlining. Getting through the winter will be difficult for them. It IS difficult to be optimistic.

I'm reading Wendell Berry at the moment. Ever hear of him? He's "the voice" for agrarian living. I'm tempted to write to him for words of encouragement. His essays are full of doom and gloom, however, for the small farmer. But, he's wise and thoughtful.

Comment by Loam Gnome on September 24, 2018 at 8:31pm

I didn't see the news, but I'm sorry to hear about it Randy.  My condolences.

Here is sweet corn from the kitchen garden today, 9/24/18.  I think it's the latest crop I've ever had.  So, even though we start getting it much later than the midwest or south, we keep getting it for quite a while.  This is the sweet variety "Trinity", which is still my favorite!

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 24, 2018 at 4:10pm

@Randall, I just read the news from Silverthorn Farm! Emily and Nate's sorrow clearly came through in their message. They will undoubtedly have many comments about what they "shoulda, coulda, woulda" done differently and I have nothing helpful to offer. 

Organic farming offers so many benefits that the general population does not realize. I watch the videos on CSA and organic growing a big part of each day. There is one fellow that seems to be making it in this difficult market. He farms in Canada and I like him because he deals with cold, windy weather, as do I, and he uses seeds that do well in that latitude.

Curtis Stone

How are you doing with this situation? 

Comment by Randall Smith on September 24, 2018 at 6:56am

Interesting about the garlic. Mine comes up as volunteers--what I miss in harvesting each year. They're small, so I'm considering starting new with sizable bulbs. Your information is helpful.

I was a science teacher for many years, so you know I'm a big fan, especially "earth sciences".

Comment by Loam Gnome on September 23, 2018 at 2:42pm

Patricia, science has aways fascinated me.  I still read science topics, although not rigourously.

Ning gardens some but is not obsessed like I am.  Mostly he takes care of his chickens and ducks.

Comment by Patricia on September 23, 2018 at 1:14pm

Good news, Joan. Enjoy your day together.

Science has kept many of us here, Loam. Its marvelous!

Does Ning garden too?

Comment by Loam Gnome on September 23, 2018 at 9:05am

Sorry for typos.  Typing on tablet at airport.

URL links for garlic varieties:

growing great garlic

groworganic .com

Comment by Loam Gnome on September 23, 2018 at 8:49am

Joan, I echo Randy's congrats!

You accomplished a lifetime of acheivements at that house.  I thi k you can regard that as a world of "Job well done".  I hope the new owners will feel that history as well as make it their own.  Meanwhile, you continue to be a wealth experience, study, and example for your family.  They may not always show aporeciation, but that example and your nurturing live on in them.

Thanks Randy.  What I saw was pretty amaxing.  The know the exact DNA mutation, the function and shape of the receptor molecule coded by that DNA, and the way the mefication fits into that molecule like a key in a lock.  It's kind of stunning.  To use the garden metaphor, like weeds, those cells can still adapt  spread, and grow, but a diligent gardener knows how to hoe and pull out those weeds.    I'm very happy and always grateful for amazing good fortune, and living in a time when science has discovered so much, and to have studied science myself.

Ning texted me the garlic starts came from territorial seeds.  He thinks Im crazy to buy them like that, when grocery store starts can grow.  I want to continue the experiment with new varieties, see what grows best, stores best, cooks and tastes best, for me.  This time I will try the hardnecks " Music" and Spanish Roja" as well as replant saved heads, most likely "Inchelium Red" and/or "German Red".  Those might be mixec up in the box, but thats OK as long as they grow and are good.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 23, 2018 at 7:20am

Daniel, hope you got some good information regarding your cancer treatment. Coincidentally, my dentist took his wife to the same Center sometime this weekend. Never heard of the place until you and my hygienist daughter mentioned it.

Joan, congrats on your house being sold. Bitter sweet feeling, I'm guessing.


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