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Comment by Loam Gnome on October 3, 2018 at 10:54am

Randy, that's a great photo!  Did you eat any of those persimmons?

I don't know if people will buy them, but it's worth a try.  People are not familiar with persimmons, and don't know what to do with them.  Having some persimmon pudding or other food made from them (jelly?) might help.  People seem to like prepared foods better than something they have to make themselves.

Despite the chill in the air, and impending rainy season, I still have 4 "crops" to look forward to:  Persimmons, figs, pawpaws, and chestnuts.  Using the word "crop" is stretching it :-)  The chestnut tree has only two burrs, maybe a few nuts per bur.

Comment by Randall Smith on October 3, 2018 at 6:58am

I'm going to give SIL Nate persimmons to sell at the farmers market. (Correct me if there's supposed to be an apostrophe in "farmers".) I'm curious as to whether people will buy them.

When I was in China a year ago, I saw a vendor hawking nothing but persimmons. I'll see if I can find my photo of it. Yes!

Comment by Loam Gnome on October 2, 2018 at 11:04am

Randy, I hope this is the turn in the road that leads to success!

Farming is hard.  I get frustrated with failures and disappointments in the garden, and that's not even necessary for me.  I just do it because i like it.  We have voles here too  They've eaten quite a few tree roots and bark, killing young trees.  And potatoes.  I don't know what to do about them.  I put up a barn owl house, but no owls have occupied it

Randy, it  was you that got me interested in growing persimmons.  They are a durable hardy tree.  I didn't water at all this summer.  The persimmons are smaller than last year, but more of them.  The American persimmon (Diospyros virginiana) variety from Indiana, called "Yates" has quite a few fruits.  The pictured one is the Asian x American hybrid, called "Nikita's Gift".

Thanks all for the comments about the cosmos.  Joan, I planted it in rows.  That way I can easily hoe between the rows, using a stirrup hoe, so it doesn't get weedy.  Watering is easier too.  It might not adhere to someone's garden design ideas, but I enjoy looking at them every day.

This summer I also planted some wildflowers in rows too.  It was too late in the season to get much bloom.  For the past couple of weeks, some cosmos and another flower, I don't know what it is, from that mixture have been blooming.  I planted most of the seeds way too close together.  Memo to self next year:  Plant the seeds a few inches apart, then thin to 6 inches to a foot apart.

Critters don't touch the cosmos.  It doesn't  mind hot weather, although I did water it. 

Thinking about next year:  Zinnias.  Cosmos.  Marigolds (yellow ones.  I don't care for orange).  Rudbeckia.  Echinacea.  Cleome.

There are lots of interesting looking cosmos varieties out there.  Mostly reddish, white, pink but also bicolor and even yellow. 

Comment by Randall Smith on October 2, 2018 at 7:04am

Yes, Daniel, nice looking cosmos. I used to have them, but no more for some reason.

My persimmon trees are loaded, and quite a few persimmons have dropped already. Most won't be ready for another month.

Joan, the farm kids have made some serious decisions and are feeling a little bit more optimistic. I helped Sunday harvest their sweet potatoes (yes, they even work on Sundays.). Many were chewed on by voles which ruins them for market. Others were football sized, also unsellable as a rule. I haven't dug mine up yet.

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 2, 2018 at 4:27am

Daniel, I don't think I have ever seen cosmos look so beautiful! Do you plant these in rows? or broadcast the seeds?

Comment by Joan Denoo on October 2, 2018 at 4:14am

Randy, the concept of Community Supported Agriculture makes good sense even as in practice, it requires a lot of hard work, often with serious losses for the farmer. Those awful storms that Emily and Nate experienced required time and money to repair. 

I hope they can make your farm work for all of you. 

Comment by Patricia on October 1, 2018 at 5:21pm

Beautiful.

Comment by Loam Gnome on October 1, 2018 at 5:19pm

Cosmos flowers, and others, this week.

Comment by Loam Gnome on October 1, 2018 at 5:16pm

Thanks for the nice comments about the iris photos.  I had almost given up on them, but now anticipating some flowers once again next year.  Or, life, climate, weather, health, and unforeseen stuff permitting, in following years.

Here is the iris bed this week.  Some are new rhizomes, some are rescues from around the yard.  I read, and my experience is, that some planted now should bloom next Spring but others will take longer to establish.  Looking at some of the websites, they might benefit from low-nitrogen fertilizer in the spring.  Thinking about doing that too.

Comment by Loam Gnome on October 1, 2018 at 5:11pm

Randy, are you starting to see color change in your persimmons yet?  Here are some of mine.  They are changing color, but still as hard as a rock.  Looking forward to some nice persimmons this year!

 

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