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Comment by Patricia on December 9, 2018 at 2:32pm

Sounds tasty Joan. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 9, 2018 at 2:28pm

Daniel, how tall should my deer fencing be?

I don't want deer getting caught in the fence how small should the holes be? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 9, 2018 at 2:16pm

My two favorite apple salad dressings. 

My usual vinaigrette

  • 1 1/2 T extra-virgin olive oil.
  • 1 1/2 T apple cider vinegar.
  • 1 T minced shallot.
  • 2 t whole-grain Dijon mustard.
  • 2 t honey.
  • 1/4 t salt.
  • 1/4 t freshly ground black pepper.
  • 2 c apples, diced or sliced. 
  • optional
  • Feta cheese, optional, sprinkled on top

Yogurt salad dressing 

  • 6 T plain yogurt
  • 1 T lemon juice
  • t salt
  • Pinch of freshly ground black pepper
  • 2 apples, sliced or cubed
  • 1 c celery, thinly sliced
  • 1 c walnuts, coarsely chopped, toasted
  • optional
  • 1 c red seedless grapes, sliced in half 
  • 1/4 c of raisins
  • Lettuce

Comment by Loam Gnome on December 9, 2018 at 1:27pm

Spud, they do have that watermelon look!  The skin color does not reveal the color within.

Patricia, these do tase good.

Joan, these are sweet and tart, kind of like a McIntosh, but something more fruity in the flavor.  I only had enough to eat them raw.  Im no gourmet, but they taste good to me!

Amy apple trees in your yard will need protection.  Deer will destroy entire young apple trees.  They also need a second variety, or a crabapple, to pollinate them.

I like apple salads too.  What goesinto yours?

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 8, 2018 at 4:11pm

Daniel, a beautiful apple; are they sweet or tart, crisp or soft, good for eating and/or cooking? I have just the spot where I want to plant some fruit trees ... after we get the forest cleaned out this coming spring and moved back farther for fire protection. The color of the flesh looks perfect for an apple salad. The skins are pretty, too. 

I have been making a lot of apple salads lately; they taste so fresh as the greenhouse greens peter out. 

The sight of deer in the yard feels good to me as long as the garden is protected 

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 8, 2018 at 1:45pm

Loam, looking at the top picture before anything else, I was surprised that you grew some watermelon.

Comment by Patricia on December 8, 2018 at 1:39pm

Looks tasty.

Comment by Loam Gnome on December 8, 2018 at 10:25am

I'm always looking for something different in the fruit department.  I certainly don't need more fruit trees, but trying different things is part of the enjoyment.

European growers are promoting red flesh apples.  These are red on the inside, mostly a splotchy red pattern although some are completely red.  I think they obtain their red coloration from a Russian or Tajakstani type called niedzwetzky apple, hybridized with modern orchard apples.  In Europe the red flesh apples are called "Redlove".  They are described as more disease resistant, and have more interesting fruity flavors, possibly related to the red pigment. 

One nursery in my area offers six varieties of red flesh apples.  I'm already growing one - marketed here as Mountain Rose.  I got it as scion for grafting a few years ago.  The flavor is nice, and they are early to bear fruit.

Historically, there has been interest in red flesh apples since the mid 1800s, and one grower in California created several varieties.  Those never took off, but some are being rediscovered.  I suspect the newer ones might be better because of disease resistance.   The one that i grow was accidentally discovered in Oregon in the 1960s and has been given multiple names, which is confusing.

Here are images from my garden.  I think the European types have more red throughout the flesh.

Comment by Loam Gnome on December 4, 2018 at 10:15pm

There was another visit from the deer family today.  This time I got a good look at their tails - definitely black tailed deer.   So far not a lot of winter damage.  I don't see antlers, maybe no buck this time.  They were too skittish to get a good photo.

Given this area, they must be Columbian Black Tailed Deer.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 3, 2018 at 5:31pm

"From the cat's point of view not only do birds not play fair by flying and having eyes that can see beyond the back of their heads, but they can positively cheat by using loud alarm calls and throw the cat's chances of catching any others."

~ Tabor, Roger (1983) The Wild Life of the Domestic Cat. Arrow Books. ISBN 0099312107.

You arouse a laugh in me with "It's interesting that these invasive cats live among the invasive Himalayan blackberries and invasive English Ivy, and eat invasive rats and invasive mice.  And are admired by invasive humans."

~ Loam Gnome


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