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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 14, 2019 at 8:39pm

Spud, it sounds like you have a  plan for protecting the trees. Let us know how it works. 

Patricia, what is Rick growing in the basement this year? 

We had a very hot week last week and now returned to normal chilly temperatures. I fully expect we will have more frosts that will kill the tender starts, however, I am planting as though it were June 1, or when the snow is off Mica Peak. 

That heat wave took all the snow off Mica Peak so my weather signal has been tricked and signaled seeding time to a lot of Spokane area people. I live 50 miles north and at a higher elevation than my old home. I have no idea how to predict this year. I'll simply plant seeds and if they rot in the ground or get knocked out by a late frost, I will simply plant them over again. The growing season is so short, I haven't been able to get to harvest with some.

How is Rick planning his seedlings? Is he expecting to be able to move plants to your greenhouse soon? 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2019 at 9:44am

Joan, cleaning the hard water deposits off of my van & house windows is too much of a pain to make it worthwhile trying misting again.  Plus, putting hard water deposits on other people's cars is out of the question.  A breeze blows that mist 20 or 30 feet away.   I'll have to try something else.  

Perhaps heaters under the tree.  A kilowatt-hour of electricity here only costs 6 ¢, so I could use my two oil-filled space heaters under the tree and it would only cost me $2.30 per day.  Together, they will put out 3000 watts of heat.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 4, 2019 at 9:26am

I'm getting less weeds since covering the garden with wood chips, but I expect the slug population to increase because of that.  To get rid of them, I'll try diatomaceous earth, iron phosphate, and perhaps beer.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 4, 2019 at 7:26am

Because my garden has been so soggy from all the rain this spring, I didn't roto-till, and I'm paying for it with weeds. But the good news is, I've still been able to get many seeds and plants planted--peas, beans, "greens" seeds, and tomato (12 ), pepper, collards, cabbage plants. I'm just going to have to hoe the weeds once the ground dries out. The exercise won't hurt me!

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 4, 2019 at 12:38am

Spud, I have not used water spray to protect my budding trees, however, I read about it and have seen trees that have ice from frost. Those trees are sprayed every year, but I haven't paid attention to the effects on the crops. If I were you, I would learn as much as I can and follow the directions carefully and try again. I hate losing a year's crop, especially of apricots. I love their flavor and the feel as I eat them. If I tried the second time and failed, I would stop spraying. 

Comment by Patricia on May 3, 2019 at 1:08pm

Our water is very hard too, & we have to make sure things are dried well to prevent the awful deposits.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 3, 2019 at 11:42am

I see many of the one inch leaves on my apricot tree are looking dead, so I think I did the icing wrong.  In any case, I'll not mist it every again because the windows on my house and van are covered with hard water deposits that I'm going to have to get off. The water here is very hard.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 2, 2019 at 7:31am

Many years ago, when I tested misting/icing some tomato plants, it worked, but I may have gotten lucky.  I don't remember reading much about it before trying it.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 2, 2019 at 7:29am

I've started reading about icing fruit trees to prevent low temperature damage and it looks more complicated than I thought.

It works well if done properly, but if not, it won't work.  It appears I may have done it improperly.  I'll see when the fruit develops (or not).

When water changes to ice, heat is released, warming the buds, but stopping the misting before the ice melts can cause the ice to evaporate, which causes cooling.  I'm guilty of that.

There are one or two other things to be careful about.  I'll have to read more and print-out a plan for next year, or even this year, if I get more freezing weather.

Comment by Ruth Anthony-Gardner on May 1, 2019 at 7:18pm

The close up of your sprayed tree is dramatic, Idaho Spud. i hadn't heard of this before.

 

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