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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: 3 hours ago

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Daniel Wachenheim 3 hours ago

Kathy, that is a wonderful sounding experience.  I remember my mother telling me that her mother made pie cruse by squeezing the dough together with the shortening, using her fingers.  She made biscuits in a similar way.  I can't get biscuits right to save my life.  But I do make a good pie crust using a food processor.

Today it was drizzly.  I took a break from kitchen destruction and transplanted another dwarf apple tree from the old place to the new place.  It's a Jonagold, one of my favorite apples.  This tree almost never has a good crop due to maggot infestations, which I attribute to a massive neglected neighbor tree.  No such problem in the new spot, maybe it will bear some nice fruit next year despite the move.

Comment by k.h. ky 7 hours ago
That should have been cooked in not cooled in.
Comment by k.h. ky 7 hours ago
Joan, I don't have that recipe and neither do my sisters. I guess it died with mom. Mom never used a recipient that I recall. She had just made the same things the same way every year. She could always tell by taste if it was right. And we're talking making a dozen or more quarts every batch. Several times during the summer. With the five of us kids working alongside her to core and quarter the apples, green tomatoes, sweet green peppers, onions and the few hot peppers that made the hot variety added during the last batch. With the younger kids working the hand cranked grinder. If you ever feel really ambitious I tell you the tart apples and green tomatoes were drained before being put in the pot. I remember mom hanging them in a clean pillow case on the line to drip. Vinegar and sugar was what she cooled it in. With several table spoons of lemon juice. Everything was coarsely ground.
I found some recipes on the web are similar but with major differences. They used cinnamon or garlic and several other odd spices. Mom just used sugar, salt and apple cider vinegar.
Comment by Idaho Spud 11 hours ago

Daniel, I'm also amazed at your ambition, and I'm sure your garden will appreciate all the leaves you feed it.

Joan, your Paradise Acres looks beautiful, and I too am glad you've got your spirit back.

Comment by Randall Smith 16 hours ago

I agree with Joan, Daniel. Your work ethic is incredible and inspirational. My neighbors have no garden and consider sitting on a lawn mower for 3 hours every 3 days is work and exercise. Even at a quarter mile away, I hate hearing their noisy mower.

I didn't quite get my geraniums indoors in time. The frost got them. No matter. They seldom survive anyway.

Joan, it does look like "Paradise" where you now reside. I'm so glad you're happy and positive.

Comment by Plinius 19 hours ago

Good plans, Joan, and I'm very glad you've got your spirit back! It looks a wonderful place to live, very special to someone in the city!

Comment by Joan Denoo 20 hours ago

This is L&L Paradise Acres, at least that is what I call it. It is built on huge sand dunes left over after the last Ice Age, and the Great Missoula Flood that swept over this countryside, helping to form the small hills and valleys hidden by the forest. New second growth forest. This property was stripped of all its trees in the early 1900s. There are about seven cedars on the 17 acres. The rest is covered with red and white Fir, and occasional Larch where there i s more water. 

We have a good aquifer and it provides for our two families. The house nearest the county road, to the North, is Michelle's and Jared's home with there five children. The house at the bottom of the page, South, is where Laura and Larry live. The good thing is I have my spirit back. They are still clearing the forest back from the houses for fire protection. The chicken coop is at the Northern house. Dominic and I take our daily walk to the coop to give them fresh greens from the greenhouse.  

I will be renting my home to Larry's son and his wife. I know the property will hold its value through the coming depression while cash and investments will evaporate                      

Comment by Joan Denoo 22 hours ago

Randy, I put out some new bird feeders and look forward to watching them as the snows come. 

We have had a few snifters of snow, not enough to shovel, but enough ice to make driving hazardous. 

I picked some spinach, kale, celery from te greenhouse today and made a huge salad with leftover turkey. We had a nice loaf of sourdough and that was our evening meal. 

Kathy, do you have the recipes for your Mom's beets and green tomatoes? 

Daniel, your energy level astounds me! Where do you get all that energy? Your garden will show some appreciation when spring comes. All those leaves that you give back to the soil will reward your efforts. 

I always keep geraniums when I have them, and sometimes I take care of other people's plants in my garage. It is so easy to bring pots in from outside if they are not too heavy. 

Daniel, you seed bed will bring you pleasure at blooming time. The echinacea, rudbeckia, and carnations will bring you pleasure. 

I feel so much better here, having Laura and Larry to chat with at meals and we each go to our computers, L & L to work and I to read. I have a few chores that include Dominic and the chickens. A big male cat of Michelle's started coming up to take on the mice population that seems to have exploded at this site. He is a great hunter and proud of his catches.  

We continue to have beautiful, sunny and warm weather between snow showers. We've had no heavy snowfall. 

Comment by Daniel Wachenheim yesterday

Today I finally hauled and spread the last of the massive tree leaf collection that I started a month ago.  I hope the worms and fungi and bacteria and plants are feeling loved :-)  There are still a couple of vegetable beds to clean up, but there's no hurry,  They can wait for Spring if need be.

I also dug up a miniature apple tree from the old place and planted at the new place.  This is on a super-dwarfing rootstock, so the tree only grows to 5 or 6 feet tall.  We've had it about 10 or 12 years, and it's currently up to my chin.  Very tasty apples.  I  hope it likes its new home.

I moved pots of geraniums to the garage.  I usually keep them dry and cool for the winter.  I don't know why I don't just buy new ones. 

Set up the fluorescent light fixture in the window.  It has seedlings of echinacea, rudbeckia, and now some carnation seedlings.

Comment by k.h. ky on Saturday
My mom made the best beets in the world. The sweet ones. And what she called green tomatoe ketchup. Which is like a sweet relish but far better, and one batch that had hot peppers. That was made from green tomatoes, tart apples, onion, sugar, vinegar and probably a couple of things I've forgotten.

Joan, I'm glad you're with family now. Family helps a lot of things.
 

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