Godless in the garden

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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  

 

Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: 10 hours ago

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits

Folklore.

Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.
Squirrels.

Synergies.

Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Randall Smith 10 hours ago

As they say, it must be the water. Crazy.

Comment by Daniel W 20 hours ago

Gestation time for hamsters - "The gestation period or pregnancy can vary between species, ranging...

Did you name the babies "Jesus-1, Jesus-2, Jesus-3...."?

Comment by Thomas Murray 21 hours ago

Someone claimed it is the Virgin Mary reincarnated into a hamster....

Comment by Idaho Spud yesterday

Strange.  I'd aim a camera at the hamster and record it constantly to see whats up.

Comment by Thomas Murray yesterday

Speaking of seeds.....years ago we bought an Asian hamster for my oldest son...cute little thing and cuddly. A weeks later, she had babies....7 of them. All grew up healthy and were given away. Another two weeks went by and viola! ...more babies! What the hell! There are no males around yet something is "seeding" her.

And yet, third time around she had 5 more babies.

Comment by Daniel W on Sunday

Spud, last year I germinated bean seeds that we have had in the basement in envelopes for 10 to 15 years.  Only about 10% grew, and some of those were sick looking plants, but I got enough to regenerate the variety.  Since these were descended from Chinese beans and I have never seen them in catalogs, I was happy.  That's unusually long for beans.

I've grown peppers and tomatoes from 10 year old seeds.  One of the pepper types was from a package in the kitchen that sat on the shelf for at least 10 years.

I test similar to how Joan does.  I put them in a moist paper towel, fold it, and place in a ziplock bag.  With those beans, I germinated them that way then carefully transplanted the seeds into containers.

Corn and onion seeds are thought only to last 1 or 2 years.  It really depends on the species.

I have a collection of seeds that I draw from each year.  It's too many but I hate throwing them away.  For some, when I plant new seeds I mix them equal parts with old seeds because they need thinning out anyway.  I do that with radishes, carrots, greens, lettuce. 

In Israel, some date palm seeds were found at an archeological site, 2,000 years old.  One has been germinated and has grown into a tree, dubbed "Methasulah".  It's important because this species has been extinct for many centuries.  Most likely, date seeds are very durable and long lasting, and it was in a dry protected archeological site which helped.

I keep mine in a plastic box that doesn't seal completely.  My basement is cool and dry, not damp.

Comment by Joan Denoo on Sunday

OR, I finally found Daniel's Blog,

"Growing Greener in the Pacific Northwest"

http://growinggreener.blogspot.com/#uds-search-results

Comment by Joan Denoo on Sunday

Spud, seeds are viable as long as they are viable. Some die quickly, some remain viable for centuries, i.e. Egypt and ancient Inca seeds have been viable. 

To test, wet a paper towel, put a few seeds on it, cover with another wet paper towel. Check the seeds after a day, a week, a month, and if they sprout, perhaps the others in the pack will sprout. No guarantees the other seeds are viable or not. 

When I have questionable seeds that I don't care if they are viable, I add them to the bird seed mix in the feeder or throw in a small patch I have fenced off so cats and hawks can't get the birds as they feed on the hand-tossed seeds.  

Or, I dry seeds on a metal surface in a dark place that is not damp and where mice can't get to them. When they are dry, I put them in labeled jars and put them in the freezer. 

Or, I leave them in the seed pack and store them in a dry place where mice can't get to them. Mice love flower and vegetable seeds and they can smell them as easily as you and I smell bacon frying from outside. I keep the packets in a metal tin, usually the kind in which Christmas fruit cakes come. Be sure to wash and dry the tin and lid thoroughly or you will open the tin to mold.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on Sunday

I've also not stored my seeds properly.

Comment by Idaho Spud on Sunday

All of my seeds are 2 or more years old, so I've taken the advice of that article and have ordered all new seeds for spring planting.  

 

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