Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Comment by kathy: ky on February 21, 2017 at 9:23am
Daniel, the persimmon trees here are small. Not much larger than a dwarf peach tree.
Comment by Daniel W on February 21, 2017 at 9:16am

A permaculture orchard in Quebec.

At one point he says "honey locust" where I think he means "honey locust" as a nitrogen fixing tree. I planted clover for nitrogen.   He's about 10 times as ambitious as I am.  It's fun to look at.

Comment by Daniel W on February 21, 2017 at 9:04am

Randy, I know what it's like hauling dirt in wheelbarrows!  I've hauled dozens of loads.  One load at a time, and it's eventually done!

That sounds about like I would do.  I can't seem to avoid planting trees.  Here are some big tree types that I planted in the past 5 years -

American linden

European Linden

Crimson Maple

Norway Maple

Bigleaf Maple

Multiple Ginkgo biloba trees, grown from seeds

Multiple Leyland Cypress at near property line.

And next, those chestnuts.

I think that's about all of the big trees that I'm going to plant, but I've said that before.  It does not include the orchard, which is about 40 fruit trees.  Also, I don't know how big the persimmons will get, whether they count as big trees or not.  They might.

Have you thought about the apple and plum varieties?  Do you have others to provide pollen?

Comment by Randall Smith on February 21, 2017 at 7:03am

Thanks, all, for the suggestions on what to do with my "bare patch". A greenhouse would be nice, but my kids have 6 of them with all the winter greens I need. The shed in the picture is my wood shed (I built). It used to be the site of a hen house, but I have never wanted animals--chickens or goats, etc.

I'm thinking trees, perhaps 4 of them--fruit and nut. You've got me thinking chestnut. I need a new apple tree and a plum. I don't have an English walnut either.

I've already hauled 30 wheelbarrow loads of dirt with about 10 more to go, I think. I'm getting the dirt from a huge berm mound across the road. It can't be mowed and is/was an eyesore. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2017 at 9:05pm

Kathy Ive seen that happen with black walnuts and with hazelnuts.  I think chestnuts are even more perishable.

I ordered the trees.  It may take the nursery a few weeks to send them.

Comment by kathy: ky on February 20, 2017 at 8:17pm
I bought a large bag of fresh pecans one time. They well dried up on the inside. Until then I don't think I knew nuts in the shell could go stale.
Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2017 at 9:46am

Spud, I wonder if the chestnuts that you tried were just not fresh enough?  from what I read, now is too late in the season to get fresh ones.  Maybe they are like other foods, grocery store versions are not nearly as good as fresh out of a farm or garden.  That is pure speculation on my part, I really don't know. There are also many varieties, and not all have the same flavor.

Since you guys got me on a chestnut buzz, here is an article about the demise of the vast forests of American...  Sad, and parallels the demise of Elms.   The good side of the story is, there are new varieties and hybrids that resist the blight, and there seems to be a resurgence of interest in growing them.  Maybe some human-guided evolution will give us new forests of chestnut.  They will need to tolerate changing climate as well, a wildcard that will need the incredible diversity of evolution, human-guided and random, for forests to thrive.

Comment by Daniel W on February 20, 2017 at 8:28am

I wouldn't mind living in town, if I could have a few acres to garden, and i there weren't people everywhere.  And cars.

Comment by Plinius on February 20, 2017 at 1:42am

Kathy, I´m a town person, and the neighbours are mostly easy here. If the apartments are reasonably sound proof there´s a certain rhythm and comfort hearing the neighbours move about , knowing I can ask them if I need help. They´ll ask for help too. Most of the time this block feels like a small village.

Then again, I could never afford driving lessons or a car, so I can´t move to a place without public transport.   

Comment by kathy: ky on February 19, 2017 at 11:56pm
Chris, Spud, I often want to move back to town. But, then I think, neighbors!
Life seems to be a series of trade offs. For all the quiet and land there's a sixteen mile (round trip)
drive to town. We are also the last to get power restored during an outage. Sometimes days during the ice storm about eight years ago power was out for thirteen days. And during snow storms the roads aren't cleared for at least 24 hours.
Trade offs.

Randy, the only suggestion I have is to rest up ;)

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