Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Idaho Spud on December 28, 2014 at 4:09pm

For you peeps that have trouble with deer eating you plants, I just saw a show on the TV show "Growing a Greener World", that showed how to make a small simple fence that fools deer into thinking they can't jump over it.  Here is the video of the show.  The simple fence is at 10 minutes:


Comment by Idaho Spud on December 28, 2014 at 11:13am

Kale and Lettuce like a pH around neutral or slightly acidic.  6-7.5

Comment by Amy on December 28, 2014 at 8:09am
What pH do cruciferous veggies and lettuce need?
Comment by Randall Smith on December 28, 2014 at 7:36am

Amy, both kale and lettuce thrive in my garden. It's spinach I have trouble with. Your problems could be in the soil pH, although leafy veggies are pretty tolerant. Let's face it, some vegetables are just stubborn. I can't grow melons, either.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 27, 2014 at 10:06am

Lots of things I don't know Diddly Squat about either.  I think that was a phrase used a lot in California when I lived there.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 27, 2014 at 10:04am

Not me Amy, but I'll put lettuce on the list to try next year.  My mouth is watering thinking of BLTs.

Comment by Amy on December 27, 2014 at 9:53am
Have any of yall successfully grown kale or lettuce? I can get then to sprout, but they never get very large. Do you guys have any advice on that?
Comment by Barbara Livingston on December 27, 2014 at 9:29am

Thanks Joan.  Inspiring film.  I will begin to my plant trees in a few more days.

I met a gentleman at one of my local meetings and we talked about gardening. Thursday he brought me a well worn baggie full of seeds with no label. He said they were from 'his country'. I think somewhere in Asia. He wouldn't tell me what they were just that it was edible, said it was a surprise. I guess I'll be introducing a "non-native" to my garden. Will be fun to see IF they grow and if they do, what they are.  

I believe most of the gardeners on this site know a tad more than "diddly" ... plant on! 

Comment by Randall Smith on December 27, 2014 at 7:35am

Daniel speaks for me, too, when he says "I don't know diddly squat" (a midwestern phrase?). That's why I stay out of the permaculture, hugalkultur, Texas soil, etc., discussions. Is ignorance bliss?

1491 was a very good book, on par with A World Without Us (Weinstein).

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 26, 2014 at 10:17pm

I Googled Permaculture, Amazon Rain Forest, renewal. Here is one site, Permaculture: Pioneering Amazon Rainforest Regeneration. I found the video at 


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