Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Daniel W on February 28, 2017 at 1:35pm

Thomas, I don't think hummingbirds are in decline.  I read that the Anna's Hummingbird has greatly expanded its range due to home gardeners planting more flowers that it likes. 

I have killed off turf and weeds by laying down big sheet of black plastic for several months before pulling it back up and then digging for kitchen garden.  It worked great for me.  I don't recall the timing, it was several months.  Black absorbs heat and excludes light.  Clear lets the sun shine through, which can result in growth of weeds under the plastic.

Comment by Daniel W on February 28, 2017 at 1:08pm

Folks here in the South and Midwest already knew this, but Spring in much of the Southeast is 3 to 4 weeks aheadof usual. USA Phenological Network.     Here in the maritime Pacific NW, it feels like we are approximately on schedule, after last year being several weeks early.  If early Spring is to become the norm, we will need to learn to adjust, and we might see evolution in action in nature as wild species adjust their patterns, native species change in distribution, and some exotics might be better adapted for various locales.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 28, 2017 at 1:06pm

Thomas, I'm not sure, but I would use black plastic, although clear might produce enough heat to kill most weeds.

I would try black because I put a colored plastic tarp over part of my garden, and thought it would kill the weeds, but when I removed it months later, it had let enough light in, that there were some weeds growing under it.  Interestingly, there was some moss also.

Comment by Thomas Murray on February 28, 2017 at 1:02pm

....are hummingbird population in decline as well?

Comment by Thomas Murray on February 28, 2017 at 12:59pm

I think it was Daniel who mentioned this a several months ago about killing off weeds.

Is the safest way to do this is putting plastic over an area to till for vegetable garden or flower bed?  Is clear or black plastic used and for how long?

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 28, 2017 at 12:36pm

And peas?

Comment by Daniel W on February 28, 2017 at 12:34pm

Joan, that's cold!  I hope you are keeping warm.

I imagine that with a greenhouse, the issue is more daylength and intensity of light, than with cold.  Maybe spinach and other greens would grow there.  Lettuce, mesclun, and scallions. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on February 28, 2017 at 11:26am

It is 30°F at 9:17 AM and expect a high of 33° with seven days of snow predicted as of the last forecast. I am itching to start seeds in the laundry room. We had one and a half inches of fresh snow yesterday and all that dirty snow has a bright new top layer. The fir trees have a snifter of snow on their branches. A beautiful sight with the sun shining through mostly cloudy skies. 

Comment by Daniel W on February 28, 2017 at 11:08am

My robins and birds in general are feasting on earthworms now.  It's a veritable battlefield out there!  Hummingbirds are at the feeder.  They are known to eat insects too, so I encourage them. 

I have not had bird problems with underripe grapes.  When they are really ripe, possums climb up into them and eat whatever the birds leave, or vice versa.  My grape arbor is outside the bedroom, and my dog goes nuts at night when they are there.  Somehow he hears the possums.

Yesterday I turned over a couple of rows for planting the first of the onions.  The seedlings are not ready yet so I bought one box of sets even though I started a lot of seeds.  It was raining so I stopped then.  Need to get some rows ready for potato starts too.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 28, 2017 at 9:03am

Randy, it sounds like your robins don't care for your grapes, but you have more of other animals that eat a lot of your food.


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