Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Friday. 15 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

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Comment by Plinius on September 19, 2016 at 12:52pm

I love the mullein family, and I've often tried to sow them but without succes so far.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 19, 2016 at 12:35pm

Chris, I love your strategy! It sounds like a good plan and hollyhock and poppy seeds make excellent plants for hard to grow places. I would also recommend mullein because it is pretty, likes neglect, appreciates the attention, and the N. American continent received their first seeds from German immigrants during the Colonial period.  It is only fair we reintroduce them back into Europe in the 21st Century. However, I assume they are as prolific in Europe as N. America. 

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When the flowers mature into seeds, cut the seed heads off and throw them in the trash or save the seeds; the plant will grow a new bunch of seed heads before frost. Cut the plants off at ground level at the end of the season and toss them in your compost, if you have one, or in the trash. The reason they are so valuable is the roots grow as deep as the seed heads grow high. The roots bring mineral to the surface of the soil, and your ground will become nourished, and the dead roots act as organic matter as it rots. Oh! I love this plant!

Sadly, people think it is a weed and lose the benefits it provides. The seedlings are very easy to pull up the first year and impossible to pull up the second year. 

It is a biennial; it forms the root and plants the first year and then grows the blossoms/seeds the second year, then dies. 

Comment by Daniel W on September 19, 2016 at 12:23pm
randy, are any of your varieties family heirlooms?
Comment by Daniel W on September 19, 2016 at 12:01pm
Knowing that folks save seeds and plant them gives me a kind of hope. That makes me feel good! For me it's a lot of fun. I wish that I started sooner, although some things do go back 20 years, like the ginkgo trees I grew and the Chinese chives that grew from seeds I saved over several years.

I should add, if the rain doesn't make them moldy, I might save cosmos and rudbeckia seeds.

The squash flowers were not covered and I pollinated the female flowers with whatever males were blooming, so who knows what would grow from those. Might try a few for novelty sake.

Joan, do you plant your echinacea in spring or fall? I started some in late summer, tine plants right now but they should survive.

Chris, that sounds like what some call guerrilla gardening. I should do that too. Around here, daffodils bloom by the roadside. They are not native, so I imagine someone p,anted them there.

Unfortunately, my hollyhocks always wind up ugly from mold disease and deer foraging. I would like to grow them, but this isn't the place.

Have a great day everyone!
Comment by Plinius on September 19, 2016 at 9:15am

I harvested a bag full of hollyhock and poppy seed, and I'll scatter them around the private parking lot downstairs. A few years ago I suggested to put some flowers there and they all applauded the idea, but when I started to do something about it, all went wrong. The car and bike owners followed me and began to whine: "No flowers there because... (about fifty reasons). " So now I'll sow in secret and dream of hollyhocks attacking the stupid cars.

Comment by Randall Smith on September 19, 2016 at 7:36am

My list of saved seeds would be extensive. Some things just do their own thing--dill and sunflowers, for example.

Comment by Plinius on September 19, 2016 at 12:59am

I guess not, Joan, borders are rather difficult.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 18, 2016 at 4:15pm

Spud, have you had a killing frost yet? We haven't had our first light frost; however, Sept. is when we start getting some serious frosts. 

I imagine you have to cover your tender plants regularly, now. 

Is that clear space on E. Gould & Garrett Way a sand quarry? I forget, is your soil sand? Oh yes! I remember now, you had a problem keeping your young seedlings moist and you brought in a lot of compost. I enjoy your photos. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 18, 2016 at 4:02pm

Yes, I save all kinds of seeds: sunflower, phlox,Monkshood, Hollyhock from Turkey, borage, chives, Foxglove, Echinacea, forget-me-not, garlic, rhubarb, tomato. Sadly, my Greek Oregano died out that winter I was so sick. I guess that was 2013.

If anyone wants some seeds, let me know and I will send you whatever you want. 

I will need your mailing address.

Chris, can you receive seeds? 

Comment by Plinius on September 18, 2016 at 1:25pm
Hollyhock seeds, but I can't send them, customs would destroy them.

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