Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: Jan 8

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Plinius on May 15, 2015 at 8:32am

Another old fashioned flower with a wonderful smell is the phlox.

Formerly you saw big bunches of them in front of old farmsteads - pink, purple and white, almost 1 M. tall. Perhaps cheap and easy, but beautiful I'm sorry I can't keep them up here.

Comment by Plinius on May 15, 2015 at 8:20am

I love the smell of lilacs! I know many flowers are bred to be big and colourful, without smell. I'm not sure if lilacs are among those, but roses are. Give me a dogrose any day, then you can keep the hybrids.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 15, 2015 at 7:40am

Patricia, your Lilac town sounds (smells?) wonderful.

My mother grew Lilacs and I loved the smell.  That reminds me, I seem to remember most of her flowers having a nice scent.  Most flowers I smell today, have none.  I wonder if it's just because she chose those with a scent, or if the scent has been bred out of them.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 15, 2015 at 7:39am
I have a lilac bush. I, too, love the fragrance. One day it was all purple, the next day, gone. Surprised me.
I went to the greenhouse yesterday and bought two dozen sweet potato plants (which turned out to be 30). Dug my holes, loosening the soil all around, and buried the roots. Watered them (plus 0.5" rain over night). Now the wait. By the way, they were "Georgia Jets".
Comment by Barbara Livingston on May 13, 2015 at 6:25pm

Joan, I agree completely what Daniel's statement. 

Comment by Daniel W on May 13, 2015 at 4:46pm
Joan that will be the perfect legacy for your grandchildren and beyond. There are so few people teaching love of horticulture, yet that is lne of the great joys, opportunities, and sources of security snd connection to nature.
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 13, 2015 at 2:30pm

Stopped at Home Depot today, but they had no mushroom kits. :(

Out of curiosity about the price & other info, I trying finding them at Home Depot stores in Boise, Vancouver, Portland, and Troutdale, but found none.

Tried Amazon and found them for $16.61

Also found Morel kits at Amazon, plus other kinds of mushrooms.  I many order some one of these days.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 13, 2015 at 7:18am

Joan, most people don't like change. You're not one of them! I like your outlook on the challenge(s). Being that my family farm is also in its 7th generation, I can appreciate your pride.

Daniel, your mushrooms look great! I found a huge clump of mushrooms on a stump (at the golf course, of all places). I picked it, thinking it might be a "hen in the woods" variety. But, not being sure, I googled it. Sure enough, it wasn't. Good thing I didn't try eating it! Don't know what it is.

Comment by k.h. ky on May 12, 2015 at 11:26pm
Thanks Daniel and Randy. That certainly helped narrow it down. And saved me a lot of time.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 12, 2015 at 10:46pm

When I had my heat surgery several years ago, I planned to move to Laura's. I spent three days in my garden crying. I wasn't ready then. I am ready now. The fall on April 9 took a lot of cockiness out of me and I feel vulnerable now. 

A new housing bubble started some months ago and now is the time to sell my home and get a good price for it. I can't do the upkeep needed and can't afford to hire the work done. Cary does all he can with his limitations. 

I feel quite content making this move. We started the foundation work for the new greenhouse this week. With the very high cost of food at the grocery story, the family joins in the desire to produce more of our fruits and vegetables. No one wants to raise meat to eat, for which I am grateful. Michelle is getting some chickens for the eggs. We plan some permaculture designs for the soils and some water capturing plans. This 17 acres has no surface water and the aquifer feeds from the many lakes around here left over from the Ice Age and Missoula Floods. 

My home in Spokane exists as part of the urban forest of deciduous trees. My new home lies in the depths of an ancient forest of conifers. This will give very different soils and water conditions, presenting me with new challenges. 

I feel that the best legacy I can give my grat-grandchildren is showing them how to raise their foods and becoming more self-sufficient. My 16-year-old great-grandson will be taking classes on solar heating through his high school. Our new greenhouse will be largelty solar heated. 

The line of generations in the Generaton Garden here at Laura's goes from my

great-grandmother>Grandmothers>Mother>Me>Laura> granddaughters>great-grandchildren. That is seven generations. 


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