Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 175
Latest Activity: yesterday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Randall Smith on November 5, 2014 at 7:31am

No picture received here, Daniel. I need to photograph my persimmon tree. They sure taste yummy!

Comment by Daniel W on November 4, 2014 at 5:19pm

New profile pic from my yard today.  In a week, all of the leaves will fall.

Comment by Daniel W on November 3, 2014 at 7:47am
Randy I hear a hard freeze was good for horseradash too.

Enjoy your sprouts and persimmons!

I've been hauling tender plants in containers, inside for the past month. One or two at a time. I need to cut back - too much maintenance. Cacti, geraniums, brugmansia, orchids, citrus. Most I let go dormsnt and store in garage.
Comment by Randall Smith on November 3, 2014 at 7:26am

We had two weekend nights of temperatures in the low 20s! My chard took a hit, but I think the kale, broc, etc. survived. Not my raspberries, however. I was tired of eating them, anyway. A hard freeze is good for two foods: B.sprouts and persimmons. Time to enjoy.

Barbara, I'm quite impressed with what you're doing. Ain't gardening fun?!

Comment by Daniel W on November 2, 2014 at 3:20pm

Joan, your climate is almost Midwestern, similar to where I grew up.  I did not move for weather climate - it was for social climate and had opportunity, and felt like I belonged here.

per the weather channel, no freeze predicted here for 2 weeks, then who knows.  Average first freeze here is in early Dec, I think.

Garlic I planted about 2  weeks ago is growing.  It doesn't mind freeze.  I'm pleased that it is growing.  Last year I planted earlier, didn't get to it this time.

Comment by Daniel W on November 2, 2014 at 3:16pm

redearthworms.com has 1/2 pound of red wigglers for 15.95  plus postage.  I don't know how reliable they are.


Just checked my worm bin, which is really a rolling composter.  They descend through multiple worm bins I've had 15 years.  Whenever I clean out the composters, I leave a big wad of worms to start over.  They have been through multiple freezes.  I'd be happy to mail some if you like.  Will need to research how to do that.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 2, 2014 at 2:19pm

In case anyone is wondering, I place the Permaculture article in the wrong group. Deleted it and moved it to here. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 2, 2014 at 2:18pm

Barbara, and my major problem is cold. So, we have to bring the inside during the hot and cold spells. We had our first killing frost this morning, Nov. 2. That is late this this country. We often have a layer of snow by now. 

$40.00 is a high price, and I don't do much better. I have enough to share, but the temperature between here and there would prevent sending them. 

If you have trouble with smell, I recommend adding shredded newspaper on top of the box with worms. That should absorb the smell. I could be wrong ... I have been known to be wrong many times. Thankfully, I enjoy being corrected.

If you ask to buy what you can afford, you should be able to have a good breeding colony in no time. They love to make babies. Ask him if you can buy $5.00 worth and how many that would be. You just have to make sure you don't overfeed or underfeed the number you get. And, remember, moist, not wet. 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on November 2, 2014 at 1:11pm

Well, my attempts to find red worms on the cheap didn't work out. I just returned from a 50 mile drive in search of a bait shop that carried them with no luck either. So, since there is a reputable local guy who sells them and I can go and pick them up, I'm just going to have to bite the bullet. A regular order from him is $40  - I've sent him an email asking if I can have half an order. Maybe he'll take pity on a old woman who just wants a few worms. (';')  

Joan the 50-86 degree limit is the reason I chose to grow them in my office.  They would simply cook outside. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 2, 2014 at 11:28am

Barbara, about red wiggly earthworms. Here are sites I do not recommend. 

Uncle Jim's Worm Farm 1,000 Count Red Wiggler Live Composting Worms

The scoop on 'Gardens Alive!'

The reviews on Gardens Alive have gone down the past two years. I had great service and products when I bought from them, but that was over five years ago. 

Worms for vermiculture are (Eisenia foetida, Eisenia andrei, and Lumbricus rubellus

Presently, I get my Eisenia fetida, red wigglies, from a local worm farmer. Perhaps there are local worm farmers in your area. 

Red Wigglies thrive between 50 and 86 degrees F. 

I wouldn't mail order worms at this time of year, nor in the early spring because of unknown temperatures during transport. 

When I bought from Gardens Alive, they would ship only on Mondays because of the fear of delays in transport. 


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