Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Randall Smith on June 28, 2014 at 7:27am

Joan, I'd forgotten how well melons grow in my compost pile! I think you're on to something. However, this year, the plants seem to be thriving. I suspect it's a pollination problem--few honeybees. Fingers crossed.

I have vines spreading out everywhere. These include melons, squash, and pumpkins. Most are in rows or hills, but some are "volunteers". It'll be like a scavenger hunt this autumn. What's fun is to plant hybrid squash seeds to see what varieties show up. Ah the joys of godless gardening (thanks, Daniel).

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 28, 2014 at 6:25am

"Seven thirty O'clocks". Cute Daniel.  

Sorry about your melons Randall.

Joan, I don't have room either, but I'm trying a muskmelon and 6 kinds of watermelon this year, hoping they don't get in each others way too much.  

Over the last 10 days, I transplanted them all, put black fabric around them for warmth, and put soaker hoses on top of the fabric, but under the melons.  Today, I finish up with I soaker hoses under the last two.  Then I'll hook all the hoses to the water supply with a pressure reducer, so the soaker hoses get only 25 PSI instead of 110, which I've determined blows them out after a few years (I remember Ruth complaining about that).  The lower pressure also just lets them weep instead of making little sprays that wet the leaves (a no-no, especially for watermelon).  

Pictures to follow.  Right now, I'm going out to the garden before the sun fries my brain more than it already is.

Comment by Plinius on June 28, 2014 at 1:53am

They're lovely flowers, Daniel!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 28, 2014 at 1:40am

Randall, I don't grow vine crops because I don't have room, but I remember as a child coming from farming families, that my grandmothers and aunts grew them near the barns where the manure was shovel out in a mighty heap. They had all kinds of squash, summer and winter, and melons of all kinds.

You might try bringing in a bag of composted steer manure and plant your seeds in hills of manure. No guarantee that my memory has any wisdom attached to it, but what the heck, nothing ventured, nothing gained. 

Comment by Daniel W on June 28, 2014 at 12:13am

Some of the blossoms on my Four O'Clocks.  This is the first time I've grown them.  An old fashioned flower that I've never seen in the stores, probably because they don't bloom during the main part of the sales day.  In my yard they don't bloom until evening, so should be called "Seven thirty O'clocks".

Comment by Randall Smith on June 26, 2014 at 7:32am

I haven't had much luck with melons (cant. & water) in recent years. For one, seeds haven't germinated very well, and second, I get few melons, and third, the melons I do get are tiny. But, I keep trying. This year's plants look healthy and blooming like crazy. Come on bees, do your thing!

Comment by Daniel W on June 24, 2014 at 9:07am

Garden as Habitat. looks interesting.  I think that could be as little as a few plants on a deck or roof, or an acre.  I like watching bees and hummingbirds discover my deck plants.  I could do without the deer or rabbits on my larger garden, but the honeybees and bumblebees are very happy there too.

"THINK 3-D, SAYS DOUG TALLAMY, co-author of “The Living Landscape,” and in fact, maybe think 4-D, since by designing your landscape in all three dimensions, layering plants into complex communities, you’ll add the “D” of diversity, too.

Entomologist Doug Tallamy and his wife have spent 14 years coaxing back to life 10 acres of what had been farmland for nearly four centuries: achieving more diversity by adding layers to its once-flat botanical architecture. Today 54 species of birds nest on their Delaware property, and acorns the couple planted have become 20-foot trees–so many that now editing is required."

Comment by Daniel W on June 24, 2014 at 9:01am

Spud, I think they would be fine to plant without loosening up.  I haven't had that much experience with watermelons.  You are right, most plants prefer a gentle transfer.  I have some that authors claim can't be transplanted, but do fine with careful treatment.  Others don't mind.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 23, 2014 at 3:13pm

Daniel, these watermelon roots don't need to be loosened-up before planting do they?  Anyone else feel free to express your opinion also.

I had one that had twice as many roots running around the edge of the pot that I loosened-up (roughed-up) and another that had twice as many that I didn't.  I'll see if I set-back the growth of the one I roughed-up or not.  

I think most plants (and especially watermelon) don't like their roots messed with when transplanting, unless they are very root-bound.

Comment by Barbara Livingston on June 23, 2014 at 7:35am

Patricia, your pictures sent me to Google in search of a small greenhouse. I discovered yours took a good deal of work and I guess I'm like Randall and will settle for warm weather gardening. :)  Thanks for sharing your pictures. 


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