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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

Discussion Forum

GARDEN HOSE PROBLEM

Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 16 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 24. 3 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on November 12, 2015 at 2:15am

Spud, I bet your backyard is beautiful with all those  yellow Amish pie squash growing. I like the name.

 yellow Amish pie squash also

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 11, 2015 at 1:30pm

Joan, I don't yet know how my sweet potatoes did because I haven't dug any yet, but there were lots of leaves.  I'll try to remember to take a picture when I dig some.

I'll try to remember to take a picture of my yellow Amish pie squash also.   Some of them grew huge.  The vines & leaves covered my back yard.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 11, 2015 at 1:20pm

Daniel, I also like your atheist ginko story.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 11, 2015 at 1:17pm

Kathy, muskmelon and cantaloupe are the same thing.  Wikipedia says "Cantaloupe (also cantelope, cantaloup, muskmelon (India and the United States), mushmelon, rockmelon, sweet melon, honeydew, Persian melon, or spanspek (South Africa)) refers to a variety of Cucumis melo, a species in the family Cucurbitaceae.

Cantaloupes range in weight from 0.5 to 5 kilograms (1.1 to 11.0 lb). Originally, cantaloupe referred only to the non-netted, orange-fleshed melons of Europe.[citation needed] However, in more recent US usage, it has come to mean any orange-fleshed melon (C. melo). Cantaloupe is the most popular variety of melon in the United States.[2]"

Most people around here call them cantaloupe, but I've started calling them muskmelon because I like the sound of that word, and I can remember it easier than cantaloupe.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 11, 2015 at 1:04pm

Daniel, when do you retire?  Just about a month isn't it? 

If I get the chance, I'll plant some tasty brambles like you have in the part of my yard that gets the least sun.  Sounds like they grow so tall, they will find the sun.  This year, I purchased a thorny blackberry because I understand they taste better.  It took a while to grow much, but it's doing well now, and I should be able to see how it tastes next year. 

I often also would like to see people plant things to eat and ornamentals instead of leaving the ground weedy or bare, or covered with grass.  From what I here, there are more fruit trees in this town that many other towns, but still not many.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 11, 2015 at 11:30am

Daniel, I like your ideas and I think that is what we will do for Michelle's garden. She has chickens and raises only enough to feed her family of five growing children. She said it takes 18 eggs to fix an egg-based breakfast. Granted, some of the eggs are small.

Randy, I think I may have gotten the idea of a sidewalk forest from your table of produce, I vaguely remember you telling us about it before. Anyway, I will give you credit for the idea in our family conferences. I live on a country road and up a gravel drive about the length of a football field. Country roads offer opportunities for interesting stories, especially when the bottom of the road drops into mud during spring thaw. I remember those events from my childhood when all the roads were dirt and oil. Riding in a car those days was thrilling because the potholes made my stomach tingle. 

Kathy, I had not thought of electric fencing, although it is what L&L did to keep their horses at home. I especially like the idea of a solar powered fencing. We could put up the poles to the heights necessary to keep deer and rabbits out. I suppose that would keep the skunks and raccoons out as well. The old horse barn and pasture is now the new chicken coop. They just put in a chicken wire fence around a small part of the pasture on the old poles used to keep in the horses. I want to put the chickens in my raised beds and a chicken electric wire fence around the perimeter might be a solution. 

L&L (Laura and Larry) and I will discuss these ideas and see what will work for us. I get many good ideas from this group and forget from whom I got them. I will just be sure to let the family know of your ideas at our family meetings. 

Comment by kathy: ky on November 11, 2015 at 10:39am
Joan the only protection l know against deer is an electric fence. Solar powered is available. It only takes a couple of strands to keep them out. This usually means doing the entire area.

Occasionally one will break through if they are panicked and running but that's rare. Ours world great for keeping the dogs in and other large animal's out.
Comment by Randall Smith on November 11, 2015 at 7:13am

Love your Ginko story, Daniel.

And I love your fruit sharing idea, Joan. Since my garden and fruit trees are off the main road (a county road), I set up a table out front for passerbys to help themselves. Few do, however. Too much in a hurry, I reckon.

Comment by Daniel W on November 10, 2015 at 7:28pm
Joan, I fence each of my raised beds separately. If something short is growing, I use pvc pipe bent into hoops, slid onto rebar. I cover that with chicken wire. It's like a chicken wire conestoga. For taller crops, I make chicken wire fences 6 foot tall for each raised bed. That keeps out deer and rabbits.

Deer wont jump into a small space. They might jump into bigger spaces, but I dont know how big.

Each if my fruit trees has fencing about 5 foot tall. they dont browse above that height.
Comment by Joan Denoo on November 10, 2015 at 12:40pm

If I returned to the city I would design my garden to have fruit trees and berries all along the sidewalk so that people could pick and eat as they walked by. I would put a little bench and table so those who wanted to stop and rest, they would have a comfortable and lovely place to pause. 

However, I live deep in a small patch of dense forest and am designing the property taking in consideration the limited amounts of water from a well, sandy soil, wild animals wandering through on occasion, and plants that need protection from the nibbling deer and rabbits. 

Travis collected some cut logs that will make good fence post to put around the raised beds.

I need some advice from those of you experienced eith deer and rabbit inruders.

How high do I need to build the fence?

What kind of screening works best to keep deer out?

We want a light material that we can take down to mow the grass between the raised beds.

Does anyone have advice about materials that fit my criteria?

What screening material does not work? 

 

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