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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

Discussion Forum

How to Store Nuts

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud yesterday. 3 Replies

Himalayan rhododendrons blooming 3 months early

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jan 22. 4 Replies

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Comment by k.h. ky yesterday
The ice storm of 2008-09 hit western ky harder than anyplace else. My daughter and I had to drive to a town about 45 minutes away to find groceries. I was looking out of the truck window, along a two mile stretch of flat hwy, and the power poles had fallen like domino's. There wasn't one standing as far as I could see.

Today temps were in the mid-70s and one of my small star magnolias bloomed in.
I added fifteen gallons of compost to each of my hugelcuture beds. I hope that's enough to allow me to plant about four tomatoes in one bed. I can't decide what to put in the second one.
I doubt I'll be doing anything in the yard tomorrow. My arms are sore.
Comment by k.h. ky yesterday
The wild persimmons are good but very small. About the size of a small plum. Which is another fruit tree on this property :)

The neighbor closest to me needed to move it so I took it. It's an old plum tree that the ice storm took the top out of. But it's still alive and has wonderful plums when I can get them before the birds.
Comment by Randall Smith on Wednesday

True, our persimmon trees can get mammoth. Good info on the chromosome difference, Daniel.

I have yet to investigate what kind of fruit trees I want. I have other apple varieties and one plum that never fruits. I know one thing--I won't plant a cherry tree. After growing up with them, when my last one split, I said "good riddance".

Comment by Daniel W on Tuesday

Kathy, that's interesting.  I could imagine a few reasons.  Maybe the tallest is the Northern type but is growing in KY, while yours might be the southern type.  Or, yours grew as seedlings from Asian persimmons gone wild.  That has happened.  Or they are a short height variant.  Or the growth and nutritional conditions in your area favor reduced size in the persimmon trees.

Are the fruits good?  I have never eaten pure / wild American persimmons.  I am growing Asian and Asian/American persimmons that are so delicious.  I do have 2 starts of American persimmons, one is healthy looking 7 foot tree, 3 years old, the other is a puny 18 inches, 2 years old, got eaten off by a rabbit but hoping for good growth this year.

Comment by k.h. ky on Tuesday
Daniel, the largest persimmon tree in ky is 75'. I wouldn't have thought they grew that large compared to the ones I've seen growing wild around here.
Comment by Plinius on Tuesday

That sounds good, Kathy, large yards in quiet neighbourhoods! I enjoy the countryside enormously but I think I´d feel lost after so many years in apartments.

Comment by Daniel W on Tuesday

Kathy, that's interesting about the persimmons in KY.  I've read there are two subspecies of American persimmon, one with 60 chromosomes and one with 90 chromosomes.  I suspect the 90s are a 1/2 replication of the 60s.  They do not cross pollinate or hybridize.  The Asian persimmons are also 90s, and those do hybridize with the American 90s.  I THINK the northern ones are the 90s.  Yours might be 60s.  That's my wild guess.

I think small towns might work for me if people were less repressive to people like me.  I was a small town / farm boy.  Cities are too much hustle and bustle.  But I do love my 2 acres.

Comment by k.h. ky on Tuesday
Chris, I've always preferred town. But I was fortunate to have lived in places with very large yards in quiet neighborhoods.
I had a small garden that produced well. And a strawberry patch that was also productive. I had even planted a blackberry patch and two peach trees but moved before they became mature.
Comment by k.h. ky on Tuesday
Daniel, the persimmon trees here are small. Not much larger than a dwarf peach tree.
Comment by Daniel W on Tuesday

A permaculture orchard in Quebec.

At one point he says "honey locust" where I think he means "honey locust" as a nitrogen fixing tree. I planted clover for nitrogen.   He's about 10 times as ambitious as I am.  It's fun to look at.

 

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