Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Discussion Forum

The Top 10 Things To Do In Your Garden This Fall

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Daniel W 10 hours ago. 16 Replies

The Hen in Winter

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by k.h. ky Aug 18. 11 Replies

Soil: regenerative land management

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 10. 11 Replies

Compact Bed Geometry

Started by Ruth Anthony-Gardner Jul 29. 0 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Jul 21. 3 Replies


Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Plinius Jul 18. 1 Reply

To cure your garlic

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Randall Smith Jul 16. 1 Reply

Harvesting vegetables

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Idaho Spud Jul 9. 4 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on December 16, 2013 at 12:10pm

Randall, maybe you can make kale saurkraut!  Salty and sour....  kale is related to cabbage.

My first attempt at saurkraut was pretty good.  I think I salted too much.  Next time I'll use a bit less.

Animals eat most of my cabbage family plants.  I was able to grow broccoli, got a few turnips, but no beets or cabbages.   Try again next year.  Between deer, rabbits, slugs, and cabbage worms, there isn't much left for me.

Comment by Randall Smith on December 16, 2013 at 7:53am

"One man's treasure.....".  I'm thinking about how I love kale but don't much care for okra. How our taste buds are different!  Raw kale isn't so tasty, but with a little salt, olive oil (or butter), maybe vinegar, well, yum! And I can't stop munching on kale chips. I think it's the salt (and my BP is soaring)! I also grow (eat) chard, collards, spinach, arugala, even beet greens. Kermit, the Frog's "green" song is my theme.

Comment by Daniel W on December 14, 2013 at 7:23pm

Joan, it seems like every year I have to have some 'holy grail' plant to accomplish growing. It took a while for me to learn tomatoes and peppers in this climate, but now I can. I obsessed one year over figs, and now have a small fig orchard. So for 2014 it's okra. Plus I love cooking with okra and eating it.

They do have a nice hibiscus type flower. The leaves are lush.

One can never tell what a season will do. I blamed climate change but then again, there have been lots of strange years in the past. Is the big freeze an omen of the winter to come, or an anomaly that indicates nothing, with a more typical winter to follow? I don't know!

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 14, 2013 at 6:45pm

Daniel, I am guessing now, but an okra plant sounds like a nice decorative plant as well as a good productive eating plant. This year is so crazy, I hardly know what to plan. I suspect there will be a lot of winter kill because of lack of snow, and very cold temps. 

Never have tried orchids inside. A lovely idea, and a pick-R-up for these dark days of winter. It won't be too much longer before the days start lengthening again. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 14, 2013 at 6:42pm

Randall, I have a thing for divorces, too. Whatever works! I have not heard of kale chips before and had to look up a recipe. The search led to: 

Crispy Kale "Chips"

Spicy Swiss Chard Chips

Are these similar to your recipe? I will get some Kale and chard next time I am at the green grocer's and give them a try. 

A screech owl must be a beautiful sight. A real gift!. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 14, 2013 at 6:35pm

OOOPPPSSS misspelled Beatles. Sorry!

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 14, 2013 at 6:34pm

Spud, I like the Beetles' Happy Together. It has a nice bounce. I don't care for kale, too strong for my tastebuds. I do like spinach and chard. Both are great with diced onions, garlic and a bit of bacon (for carnivores) or roasted nuts. I have eaten water cress and like it; I have never grown it. I assume it needs a wet place. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 14, 2013 at 12:14pm

Randall, I read very little poetry and not familiar with Sandburg.  Don't know why I remember that phrase "came on little cat feet".

I've never grown Kale and don't remember eating it.  I read that it has a strong flavor.  Is it hot like Watercress?  My dad used to harvest watercress from local creeks and use it on sandwiches, so I like it that way.  Perhaps Kale would be good on them as well. 

I hear it's very freeze tolerant so I may try growing some for greens in late fall and early spring.

I didn't like greens and many other vegetables when I was young, and although I like more now, there're many that I've not tasted or grown.  I'll try to remember to plant more.

Comment by Daniel W on December 14, 2013 at 8:09am

Randall, the cold snap and short days got me down!   I did order seeds for late winter  / spring planting.  Too many! 

This will be the year of attempting okra.  I bought several varieties.  This climate is too cool and it doesn't do well.  Now that I know it can be started indoors in containers, I plan to do that.  Probably use soil warming strategies, maybe a clear plastic tunnel and clear plastic mulch.

Also seeds for tomatoes, peppers, squashes, pumpkins, borage and phacelia for the bees, bush beans and snow peas. 

Orchids are blooming indoors.  That keeps me going too.

Kale chips sound interesting!  I keep trying cabbage family plants but something eats them.

Comment by Randall Smith on December 14, 2013 at 8:01am

Gee, it appears everybody is hibernating from "godless in the garden". Not much gardening going on, eh? I did harvest the last of my kale for supper last night. I'm also going to make kale "chips" today. They're easy and delicious.


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