Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by Joan Denoo on December 27, 2017 at 2:39pm

Daniel, I like the duck yard. That is the way Permaculture manages compost and it makes great sense! Their style is to move the yard to fresh ground and ducks and chickens do all the work of spreading. When the garden grows in those plots ducks actively pick slugs and bugs off the leaves and ground. Chickens like to pick off leaves and make holes in leaves so are used less for the green garden picking.

I would like to have chickens, but I can't impose on the North Family to take over their care while I am away in the winter. I will not ask them to do it. 

Chicken tractors provide great protection for the birds and make it easier to move the flock. 

Perfect use for a doghouse, keeping food dry for the birds. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 27, 2017 at 2:28pm

Thanks, Daniel, for the Winter Solstice Infomation. Excellent!

Also thanks for your preferred seed Catalogues. I filed your list in "Seed Catalogues." 

The daffodil photo is just what I need on this winter day. Spokane gets snow that lasts all winter, usually, Denver gets no snow on the ground between snow storms, and it has colder temperatures. 

Comment by Patricia on December 27, 2017 at 2:19pm

Rick is using a tumbler for the greenhouse etc., & he really likes it. I have a container in the kitchen for vegetable peelings etc., for him to take out.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 27, 2017 at 2:15pm


I use all forms of composting, open bins, closed bins, tumblers, pits, trenches, piles, rows. I prefer piles, trenches, and rows, depending on the need. Here is site from the U of ILL, Composting Methods

If I had ducks and chickens, I would put them in a yard and put compost over the yard. They spread the kitchen waste, manure, and yard waste. You do nothing but gather it and pour in where you want it. The poultry does the rest. 

Comment by Randall Smith on December 23, 2017 at 7:13am

Daniel, I love the rustic "homemade" look of your duck pen. And to think you will be relocating it. That takes a lot of work.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 22, 2017 at 11:08am

Daniel, can your ducks fly?  If so, how high & how far?  Those questions popped into my head when I looked at their new home.

I also wondered how they could stick their bills into the soil this late in the year, when the soil is frozen.  I keep forgetting that in the winter, you have much warmer temperatures than I do despite being quite a bit further north than me.

In the summer, I have much warmer temperatures than you.

Comment by Idaho Spud on December 21, 2017 at 10:02am

Longer days is nice, but the days are also getting colder.  It was 5F (-15C) this morning.

I don't think I'll order any seeds this year.  My freezer has all the seeds I plan on planting this year.

Comment by Randall Smith on December 21, 2017 at 7:08am

Never hunted in my life. About blew my shoulder off as a kid trying my uncle's shotgun. That was enough to cure me. Oh, I had target shoot in ROTC at IU. No. I'm with you, Daniel. I hunt only mushrooms and golf balls.

Yes, instead of thinking "winter begins today", I say "the days will be getting longer" (and Spring is on the way!). Happy Solstice.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 21, 2017 at 12:31am

OOPPSS Sorry, I told you already about my flight. 

Craig is a computer engineer with Panasonic, working on the new development taking place in Denver. 

DOE partners with Xcel, Panasonic, to test smart city ideas in Denver.

Daniel, your murder most fowl tells a dreadful tale of murder by tooth, fang, claw, beak, and duck's feet! Hopefully, a good detective will get on the job and identify the culprit. 

Laura had a favorite goose who followed her everywhere and would not let other animals near her. He honked me away from her on one occasion. Laura watched in terror as a coyote came into the yard, grabbed the goose by the neck and killed him instantly. The coyote dragged Mr. Gander off with Laura trying frantically to free her friend.

We, too, have come to the conclusion that the only protection that cuts down the deaths are good fences. The way I can enjoy the wildlife is to build good fences. We have hawks and owls that take on chickens as well. 

"Good fences make good neighbors."

~ Robert Frost.

Comment by Joan Denoo on December 20, 2017 at 10:37pm

Oh! I know! I got out my favorite seed catalog and filled it out yesterday but haven't sent it in yet. I will take it with me to Denver and think some more about what I want to do in the greenhouse and garden next spring. 

I fly out for Denver on Saturday, Dec. 23. Will return to Newport sometime in the spring. 


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