Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Idaho Spud on Friday. 15 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 24. 3 Replies

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Comment by Daniel W on May 13, 2017 at 4:54pm

Joan, does Laura use" other herbicides?   I ask because the durability of glyphosate in plant material is unclear, ditto for compost.  for example, "The primary reason crops can be planted or seeded directly into treated areas following application is that glyphosate exhibits essentially no pre-emergent activity even when applied at high rates. This means that while the product may still be in the soil, it does not have the same effect on emergent seedlings as it does on established plants. "

On page 8 of this article, "The half-life of glyphosate ranged from 10 to 27 days in foliage and litter and twice as long in soil".  I admit, I skimmed lightly.  Too much reading for me.

On the other hand,herbicides are a known problem in horse manure.   The article describes the herbicides and the plant crops that can be affected.

I'm not saying I like the idea of using roundup on dandelions, but I sense an area of conflict and maybe it's not her dandelionicide that is causing the problem.

I love your descriptions of the spring phenomena.  So beautiful.

Oh, I was thinking - if you can't grow lilacs because bears hide in them, what about the dwarf Korean lilacs?  Ours our very fragrant and pretty.  Different, but still nice.  The variety "Bloomerang" blooms for months instead of weeks, and is fragrant.  Reaches 4-5 feet tall, but I think they can be pruned shorter.    There is purple and pink

There are also dwarf Weigela now.  The lilacs are deer resistant, and maybe the chickens could hide among them, while they would be too small to provide cover for bears.

I bet a Spokane nursery would have them.

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 13, 2017 at 2:10pm

The sun shines, evidence of frost occurred last night, the greenhouse has seedling and plants ready to go out into the growing boxes, and I have energy for more than a couple hours of chores. Spring definitely continues and the colors of the forest of fir and cedars ripens with the growth of needles on the Larch. 

Dominic had his "rub" this morning and I will give him a thorough brushing when we go outside. 

The menu today includes a pot of beans and the fourth day of serving salad greens from the greenhouse. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 13, 2017 at 2:01pm

Bertold, you hit on two of my favorite topics, dogs and gardens, not in any particular order. 

"Crap, we've got Carpenter Ants" too. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 13, 2017 at 1:59pm

Kathy, I agree with you about Roundup. Convincing a grown daughter of anything takes lots of reasoning. She is a logical and rational type of person (for which I am grateful). I just have to out "logic and rationalize" her!

Comment by kathy: ky on May 13, 2017 at 11:59am
The sun is shining : )
It's a Miracle. Lol
Comment by kathy: ky on May 12, 2017 at 10:13pm
Bertold,. that's priceless :)
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2017 at 7:22pm

Funny BB.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 12, 2017 at 6:03pm

Comment by kathy: ky on May 12, 2017 at 2:39pm
I've used the DE but had forgotten about it. Thanks for the reminder.
Roundup is poison and I do not use it. Ever. It's to danger to pets, children and wildlife.
Comment by Joan Denoo on May 12, 2017 at 12:09pm

I think I figured out why my vegetable seeds were not sprouting. Laura used Roundup on the lawn to kill dandelions the other day, and when Larry mowed the lawn, he put the cuttings on the compost heap. 

I still have not convinced Laura not to use Roundup because she is so determined to have a pristine lawn. She said I could grow all of them I wanted, but not in the lawn. 

Last summer, I picked dandelions blooming in the grass every morning to take them to the chickens, but I just do not have the energy to do that anymore. 

The compost I used in the garden was two years old, consisted mostly of horse manure, and feels as perfect loamy soil should. I just did not realize it contained Roundup. 


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