Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Barbara Livingston on September 18, 2015 at 8:26am

Randall, you are not alone. I went through those feelings a week or so ago. Seems the things that failed to thrive looked even worse and everything else just dried and hot.  I too was wondering what had happened to all my enthusiasm of a few short months ago. I've decided to convert my little space to growing herbs and salvia as they are the things that have survived in a happy manner. Cool weather is coming and bringing rain! :)

Comment by Plinius on September 18, 2015 at 8:08am

It's very difficult to scrape your motivation together in such bad weather, Randall. I'd better post some rainclouds to you..

Comment by Randall Smith on September 18, 2015 at 7:55am

My garden just sits there, withering up in the heat and bone dry soil. Hand watering helps, but it's not the same as good ol' natural rainwater. In the spring, one can't help but be eager to get started. Now, it's the opposite. It all looks so ugly. I'm ashamed.

Comment by k.h. ky on September 13, 2015 at 7:57pm
Joan, credit goes to Daniel for letting us know about the weeds. He told me and he was right.
Comment by k.h. ky on September 13, 2015 at 12:15am
Wascally wabbitts. They eat two varieties of hostas l grow and many other things. Keeping them out is impossible. On the plus side they leave large amounts of fertilizer behind. Which is how l know it's wabbits!
Comment by Daniel W on September 12, 2015 at 11:20pm

Our chickens get most kitchen scraps and a lot of pulled weeds.  They love dandelions and bean plants.  I prune off big grape vines with succulent stem and leaves.  They love those too. 

Our deer are not deterred by human hair, dog hair, dog poop, human urine, soap.  The only thing that works is to fence in each fruit tree, and make fences for each raised bed.  The fencing is awkward, inconvenient, and ugly, but it lets me have lots of things I could not otherwise have.

The next project on my mind is to make short chicken-wire tops for some of the raised beds.  I did have some with hoops of PVC pipe, but that is awkward, brittle, and doesn't last.  I want to make wooden frames from 2 X 2 's, put in some cross-bars, and maybe hinge them to the raised beds so I can just raise them.  I think that would be great for greens, strawberries, onions - which either deer or rabbits seem to love in winter - and other low plants.  Maybe bush beans too.

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 12, 2015 at 4:22pm

Kathy, chickens love weed seeds?! At last, a way to digest weed seeds. 

I understand what you mean about grandchildren. My granddaughter is a controlling sergeant and I remind her that life is too short to attempt to control others. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on September 12, 2015 at 4:17pm

Kathy, thanks for the information about cooked foods. I will remember that!

Comment by k.h. ky on September 12, 2015 at 4:07pm
Joan, these chickens love weeds. And since I cold compost l can't use them there so they go to the hens. The hens act like weeds are a big treat. They start the soft little clucking noise when they see me coming their way with a batch.

Barbara, hair is a good deterrent for deer. So is human urine. So if you are out after dark and need to go...!

Grandchildren are the payoff for raising there parents. Every time my daughter says'you would never have let me' l tell her she is right. And I usually should have let her. But hindsight is 20/20. And by the time we have grandchildren we realize how fast it all goes
And not to sweat the small stuff. And 90% of it is small stuff.
Comment by Joan Denoo on September 12, 2015 at 2:24pm

Great idea, Barbara, I will give it a try. I am one of those who attracts deer onto the property and attempt to keep them out of garden space. The deer did a thorough job of eating all the leaves of the kohlrabi and didn't touch the vegetable itself. We dined enthusiastically on the kohls and so did the deer. 

We have a deer feeding station set up at the far southern end of the cleared ground where we toss old or spoiled apples and we have seven-foot wire cages around the trees at the northern edge of the property. 

Our dogs are trained not to chase the deer and we plan to fence the vegetable garden raised beds next summer. I am growing winter vegetables in the greenhouse and the first sprouts begin to show green. At least the seeds are fertile. 


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