Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Plinius on May 12, 2016 at 6:56am

Sorry I didn't answer, Spud! I've on antibiotics for a tooth problem, and the medicine made me completely brainless...

My garden looks rather good - not that I could spend a lot of time on it - but the perennial plants grow like mad. Some are thinking of invading the neighbours. I'm looking forward to the tayberry harvest, and in the meantime I sowed and planted beets, chards, lettuce, tomatoes and flowers for the salad. I already harvested rosemary and mint and I think I found some leeks. The cats harvest only grass...

Comment by Daniel W on May 10, 2016 at 2:25pm
BB, I was discouraged to lose my last beehive during the winter, so started over again in April. The new ones seem to be happy for now, and everywhere I go there are honeybees foraging for nectar and pollen.

Last year I was on a fruit growing website - mostly hobby people like me, and a couple of nurserymen. I posted about how to support bee populations by growing trees that supply pollen and nectar when fruit trees do not, how to grow a wildflower meadow for the same reason, and other things that support bee foraging.

I was met with some positive comments, but the negatives overwhelmed me. They said the bee decline is a myth, it is govt propaganda, it is anti-chemical company fear mongering, they see bees in their neighborhood so it cant be true, etc. So I gave up. I had also posted about some other topics, had the same response, so left the site entirely.

Not I don't have an online site about growing fruit - the old gardenweb was bought out by Houzz and it's basically a commercial site to support ads and corporations, and the home orchard society site is not very busy. But, by not going there anymore, I don't have to see derision of people who actually care about these things and have methods to ameleoriate the issues, however small.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on May 10, 2016 at 1:25pm

Heard on NPR today that 28% of American honeybees died off this past winter. 17% or less is what's considered by scientists to be sustainable.

Comment by Daniel W on May 6, 2016 at 3:05pm
Spud, O usually use frozen okra and include it in a vegetarian stew, along with tomoatoes, peppers, barley and some other stuff. If I had it fresh, I would roast or grill it.I love the nutty flavor and crunch. It probably wont grow here but I'm trying again. My biggest plant copntinues wilting. My guess is it's the lack of humidity.

NO sense in falling out of your tree. I'm trying hard not to do that myself.

I keep counting the flower buds on my persimmon trees. It will still take luck, but I hope there is at least one to taste this year.

Spud, Im trying that Blacktail Mountain melon along with some others. Like the okra, this is not the right climate for melons, but maybe climate change will do me a favor this year.
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 6, 2016 at 7:47am

Thanks Plinius.  It looks like I should get plenty of fruit for the size of the tree.  It's still small, but loaded with fruit.  Even after thinning, I should get a nice bunch of apricots.

How are you doing?

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 6, 2016 at 7:43am

Daniel, how do you cook okra?  I've only tried it once or twice, and wasn't impressed, but I just may not know how to cook it.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 6, 2016 at 7:41am

Thanks Daniel.  I do thin my fruit trees so I get bigger and tastier fruit.  However, climbing the ladder into my tall pear tree is not fun, so I just periodically shake the tree to shake loose some of the fruit.  Do you think that's a bad way to thin them?

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 6, 2016 at 7:33am

Joan, I've finally gotten outside and started pulling weeds the last 3 days.  I'm late because I started doing electrical and electronic work in the house the last few months, and continued into spring.

I still go to the library to access the internet, but it's such a pain that I will probably get the courage in the next few weeks to call several Internet Service Providers and try one again.

Comment by Daniel W on May 5, 2016 at 7:09pm
Such beautiful weather now. We have 4 new baby chickens, 2 sex-link and 2 Americauna. They are enjoying their tractor until they get a little bigger and seem ready for the main flock and vice versa.

Constant recurrent failure has not stopped me from trying okra again. I love that stuff. I have a few plants started early, in my sunniest hottest spot, and planted seeds today in the main garden bed. If they don't grow, at least I tried.

Im counting on some benefits from climate change. In the past sweet corn did not do well here. Last year I had great success with the variety “Trinity”, which has the non-GMO sweetness gene and is considered short season and a little more cold tolerant. I planted some of that a few weeks ago, growing nicely. Last week I planted the similar “Bilicious” which is not growing yet. There are more varieties to try.

Just enjoying the beautiful weather here today. Summer may be a scorcher, or not, but today is, as some christians say, glorious.
Comment by Daniel W on May 4, 2016 at 9:52pm
Spud, I envy you your apricots! I've planted, maybe, 5 apricot trees over the years. Each dies within 2 or 3 years, sometimes the first year. They just don't like this climate. No more for me!

If your apricots are too many, you might want to remove some so the remaining ones grow bigger and ripen sooner. I do that with peaches, pears, apples, and plums. Rule of thumb for me is about one fist apart, which depends on how big is your fist. They should be at least far enough apart that they don't touch when fully ripe.

As the others say, so glad you are here!

My potatoes needed hilling up. They are growing fast. The Idaho Russets are really vigorous. The Yukon Gold are a little slower but growing well too.

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