Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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Comment by kathy: ky on June 21, 2017 at 10:23pm
Bert, here they bloom every year. I've found a lot of annuals will become perennials if I just leave them in the ground. I first noticed it with salvia. I didn't get around to pulling it out in the winter so when I was clearing bed's for spring I saw new greenery starting at the bottom of what appeared to be a dead plant. I left them and they continued to live four five years. Marigold will too. It's surprising how many annuals will live.

My butterfly bushes are blooming in and the sunflowers. A calla lilly that has been a dark maroon color for many years has bloomed in pink. It's lovely.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 20, 2017 at 7:26pm

Do annuals or biennials turn into perennials sometimes? We have a pair of hollyhocks that have been coming back for like six or seven years now.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2017 at 2:23pm

We all probably saw this video before, but it is so timely with your discussion of tree grafts, I want to share it again. 

The Tree of 40 Fruits


Sam Van Aken, Associate Professor of Sculpture at Syracuse University, an artist with a passion for stone fruit discusses his recent sculpture designs It is at home in the fruit orchard and in the art gallery.

Comment by kathy: ky on June 19, 2017 at 4:47pm
Daniel, those grafts are beautiful. Do any of them refuse to take or leave a lump where the grafts are??
Comment by kathy: ky on June 19, 2017 at 10:34am
Spud, I have plenty of snakes and won't let anyone harm them. I was weeding a bed and put my hand right on a little brown snake. It just slithered away. I wear leather gloves so they don't bother me. Black snakes are plentiful here. Because I see so many I've read up on how to spot posion ones. Triangular shape head and blunt tails are the giveaways.
Comment by Idaho Spud on June 19, 2017 at 7:13am

A friend in the garden indeed.  I've often thought of finding some snakes to put in my garden, but haven't tried it yet.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 19, 2017 at 7:11am

Daniel, that clearing you made to sit in looks beautiful and  peaceful.

Hope your back gets better soon.  I used to go to chiropractors because the first one seemed to help my low back pain.  However, it could have been coincidence because from what I read now, their explanations are bogus, it's questionable if they really do any good, and they can definitely do harm cracking your neck.

I did enjoy the massages I received before the adjustments at my last chiropractor.  If I had the money, I would find a place where I could get good massages and go regularly, although I very seldom have any back pain.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 19, 2017 at 3:00am

Daniel, your stamina amazes me; your ability to plant and transplant trees and shrubs fills me with wonder. How do you get so much done? Just reading about your projects makes my joints ache. 

I wonder if poor old Charlie would be happy sitting beside you in the sunroom? 

May I be so bold as to suggest you go in for a really good massage and chiropractic treatment and take a day or two of rest? 

Comment by kathy: ky on June 17, 2017 at 3:17pm
Thomas, I read an article yesterday about paw paw and they are supposed to be easy to start from seeds.
Ky has an abundance of them so digging a two or three inch seedling works well here. Plus they are native to ky so that probably helps a lot. I've found that I get better trees and incredibly fast growth from the smallest seedlings. Transplanted a two inch redbud last year and it's over five feet tall now. But it's also native to ky. Maybe that's the key to success with trees. Stick with the ones that are native to your area.

Daniel, your going to hurt yourself but we all tend to keep doing until we over do it.
Seems to be a fact of life.
Comment by Thomas Murray on June 17, 2017 at 1:56pm

Hey all,

Thanks for all the encouragements ( I needed that) and Joan's video. I like that term 'food forest'.

 It was my son's suggestion to grow some fruit trees. Several years ago he helped me with our garden vegetable and he didn't like it much... weeds! So in order to keep my son outdoors I took up the suggestion of his fruit trees idea. I still need to get one more fruit tree.

We already started digging the hole. I made a screen to remove all the large rocks.  When Randal mentioned worms I looked back and  I don't remember digging up any worms....anywhere? Something wrong here? I dunno.....

  Speaking of nurseries, I went to three nurseries to buy to a soil testing kit but none of them carried any! So I had to order mine online. And Kathy, the nursery that had the costly paw paw, one of the gardeners there did warn me that transplanting paw paw is a risky chance. So for the price they were asking for a three footer was not worth the risk.

  I forgot which you tube this was on but according to this guy, if starting from seeds or pit from a fruit bought at a store, better go the farmers market and buy the fruits. The chance are that these fruit are locally grown and are not irradiated nor have chemicals on them which makes them viable candidates for healthy fruit trees. So to save money, we will start our seeds and pits from locally grown fruits.

Thanks for all the encouragements and suggestions.


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