Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by kathy: ky on June 21, 2017 at 10:23pm
Bert, here they bloom every year. I've found a lot of annuals will become perennials if I just leave them in the ground. I first noticed it with salvia. I didn't get around to pulling it out in the winter so when I was clearing bed's for spring I saw new greenery starting at the bottom of what appeared to be a dead plant. I left them and they continued to live four five years. Marigold will too. It's surprising how many annuals will live.

My butterfly bushes are blooming in and the sunflowers. A calla lilly that has been a dark maroon color for many years has bloomed in pink. It's lovely.
Comment by Bertold Brautigan on June 20, 2017 at 7:26pm

Do annuals or biennials turn into perennials sometimes? We have a pair of hollyhocks that have been coming back for like six or seven years now.

Comment by Daniel W on June 20, 2017 at 6:56pm

Joan, that tree is amazing!

Today as I was watering I think it really sunk in that I cant do as much any more.  I love doing it, but hurt back last week and knee this week.  Really need to find less laborious ways.

I did prune tomatoes today.  Need to check on whether Romas benefit from pruning too.  I think thay are determinate and dont get pruned.

On the plus side, persimmon is blooming!

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 20, 2017 at 2:23pm

We all probably saw this video before, but it is so timely with your discussion of tree grafts, I want to share it again. 

The Tree of 40 Fruits


Sam Van Aken, Associate Professor of Sculpture at Syracuse University, an artist with a passion for stone fruit discusses his recent sculpture designs It is at home in the fruit orchard and in the art gallery.

Comment by Daniel W on June 19, 2017 at 10:24pm

Kathy, they usually fuse together so well, it becomes difficult to find the graft union in a few years.  The method that I use does not leave any exposed wood, and the wrapping method gives a uniform pressure across the graft union.  That results in complete fusion of scion and understock woods.  If tne two have different color or different texture bark, then it is easier to identify the graft site.

Comment by kathy: ky on June 19, 2017 at 4:47pm
Daniel, those grafts are beautiful. Do any of them refuse to take or leave a lump where the grafts are??
Comment by kathy: ky on June 19, 2017 at 10:34am
Spud, I have plenty of snakes and won't let anyone harm them. I was weeding a bed and put my hand right on a little brown snake. It just slithered away. I wear leather gloves so they don't bother me. Black snakes are plentiful here. Because I see so many I've read up on how to spot posion ones. Triangular shape head and blunt tails are the giveaways.
Comment by Daniel W on June 19, 2017 at 10:17am

Back seems better but something going on with thigh, maybe I have a strain.  Getting older...  Today no heavy lifting but probably mow and how.  I did the big parts Saturday with garden tractor, but there are all of the details to do with walking mower.

I'm trying to redesign some areas such as orchard to better accommodate the garden tractor for less work with walking mower.  That will mean removal of some deer cages, or moving them for wider aisles.  Several of my trees are big enough that deer wont be able to graze them much.

Joan, Charlie does like the sunroom.  It gets hot there in the summer.  I want to make reflective panels to shade it, if I get the time and ambition.

Most of my grafting projects from this Spring succeeded.  I had read that Hawthorn is related to pears and quince, and accepts those scions.  However, none of those took.  On the other hand, I added some apple varieties to the apple trees, and pear varieties to the pear trees, and plum varieties to plum trees, and all took.  Most have grown a foot or more, so I've been removing the plastic strips that I use to hold the grafts into place until they fuse.

Young Winecrisp apple tree with 3 grafts. Two are Sweet-16 and one is Milo Gibson. Those are hobby orchardist varieties that I hope to taste in a year or two.

One of the chestnut trees that I planted this winter.  This one is vigorous, the other 2 have much less growth.  I added more cage.  Deer browsing is very heavy right now, and I want to give it every chance to grow.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 19, 2017 at 7:13am

A friend in the garden indeed.  I've often thought of finding some snakes to put in my garden, but haven't tried it yet.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 19, 2017 at 7:11am

Daniel, that clearing you made to sit in looks beautiful and  peaceful.

Hope your back gets better soon.  I used to go to chiropractors because the first one seemed to help my low back pain.  However, it could have been coincidence because from what I read now, their explanations are bogus, it's questionable if they really do any good, and they can definitely do harm cracking your neck.

I did enjoy the massages I received before the adjustments at my last chiropractor.  If I had the money, I would find a place where I could get good massages and go regularly, although I very seldom have any back pain.


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