Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

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Discussion Forum

Cover crops: Gabe Brown

Started by Joan Denoo yesterday. 0 Replies

Geodesic Dome Greenhouses

Started by Daniel W. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Monday. 1 Reply


Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Daniel W Jul 5. 14 Replies

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Comment by Joan Denoo on January 22, 2017 at 4:12pm

Spud, seeds are viable as long as they are viable. Some die quickly, some remain viable for centuries, i.e. Egypt and ancient Inca seeds have been viable. 

To test, wet a paper towel, put a few seeds on it, cover with another wet paper towel. Check the seeds after a day, a week, a month, and if they sprout, perhaps the others in the pack will sprout. No guarantees the other seeds are viable or not. 

When I have questionable seeds that I don't care if they are viable, I add them to the bird seed mix in the feeder or throw in a small patch I have fenced off so cats and hawks can't get the birds as they feed on the hand-tossed seeds.  

Or, I dry seeds on a metal surface in a dark place that is not damp and where mice can't get to them. When they are dry, I put them in labeled jars and put them in the freezer. 

Or, I leave them in the seed pack and store them in a dry place where mice can't get to them. Mice love flower and vegetable seeds and they can smell them as easily as you and I smell bacon frying from outside. I keep the packets in a metal tin, usually the kind in which Christmas fruit cakes come. Be sure to wash and dry the tin and lid thoroughly or you will open the tin to mold.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 22, 2017 at 3:36pm

I've also not stored my seeds properly.

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 22, 2017 at 3:35pm

All of my seeds are 2 or more years old, so I've taken the advice of that article and have ordered all new seeds for spring planting.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on January 22, 2017 at 3:16pm

Seeds: How long do they last?   http://awaytogarden.com/estimating-viability-how-long-do-seeds-last/

I just read this article, and learned a couple of new things.  

I don't remember hearing about viability before.  It says that just because your seeds will sprout, does not mean they will grow well.

I may have, but don't remember reading how to store them before.  They say they should be stored in a sealed container in the refrigerator or freezer, that moisture is their biggest enemy.

Comment by Daniel W on January 20, 2017 at 10:05am

Thomas, thanks for the reference.  I like wrens for their insectivorous ways.  It's a cool birdhouse.

Randy, my garden is bleak too.  Yesterday I went out and did some chores, moved garden blackberries to a new bed that is protected from deer.  These are horticultural varieties that are supposed to taste better, stay smaller, and not be thorny, compared to the wild blackberries, but unfortunately deer eat the plants.  I also did maintenance on deer fencing around several trees in my orchard.  The goal is eventually, many of the trees will be too tall for deer to browse, and not need fencing.  But for the time being, without protection those trees would be eaten to nothingness. 

It was nice to be outside. 

Comment by Thomas Murray on January 19, 2017 at 1:19pm

Thanks to all for the nice comments of our birdhouse.

I must point out that the design is not ours but from a bird house book I bought. I made a few modifications to it and this book didn't spell out all the measurements. We had to do some guesses of length and widths. We did follow recommended hole size for a particular bird and in this case the hole size is 1 inch for Wrens. This birdhouse is our third one. Our first two bird houses were ordinary houses, but this one we decided to explore our creativeness.

For all the size and design recommendations for any particular bird, I follow" Audubon Birdhouse Book" by Margaret A. Barker & Ellissa Wolfson and "The Birdhouse Book" by Don McNeil.

Randall: I'll ask my son if he is for hire.

We"ll be making more soon. Spring will be upon us soon and I plan to take full advantage of it.

Comment by Randall Smith on January 19, 2017 at 7:14am
Very nice birdhouse, Thomas. My bluebird houses are in need of repair/replacing. Is your son for hire?!
My garden looks so bleak right now, except for a few cilantro sprigs. I haven't even thought about my plans yet.
Comment by Joan Denoo on January 19, 2017 at 2:38am

Daniel, how is your energy staying so high? You do so much, and give me and us so much pleasure with your gardening. 

I'm still a reclining chair slouch. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on January 19, 2017 at 2:37am

Thomas, your splendid birdhouse will make some bird happy and bring you joy as well. 

Good job! Your nine-year-old son has an excellent helper. 

Comment by Daniel W on January 18, 2017 at 7:50pm

Even though it's way too early, today I dug the patch of ground where I'm going to move my horticultural blackberry vines.  Last year that spot was squashes.  I also sprinkled lime, because my soil is calcium deficient and very acidic, and that spot got lots of coffee grounds.

Even though it's way too early, I discovered seed potatoes at Home Depot and bought some, along with some for sweet potatoes.  I'm growing onion seeds, but could not resist buying some onion sets too.  Just for backup, not needed, but will not go to waste.

I'm going crazy waiting for the real gardening season to start!


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