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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Idaho Spud on June 19, 2017 at 7:11am

Daniel, that clearing you made to sit in looks beautiful and  peaceful.

Hope your back gets better soon.  I used to go to chiropractors because the first one seemed to help my low back pain.  However, it could have been coincidence because from what I read now, their explanations are bogus, it's questionable if they really do any good, and they can definitely do harm cracking your neck.

I did enjoy the massages I received before the adjustments at my last chiropractor.  If I had the money, I would find a place where I could get good massages and go regularly, although I very seldom have any back pain.

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 19, 2017 at 3:00am

Daniel, your stamina amazes me; your ability to plant and transplant trees and shrubs fills me with wonder. How do you get so much done? Just reading about your projects makes my joints ache. 

I wonder if poor old Charlie would be happy sitting beside you in the sunroom? 

May I be so bold as to suggest you go in for a really good massage and chiropractic treatment and take a day or two of rest? 

Comment by Daniel W on June 18, 2017 at 7:48pm

Kathy, I did hurt myself.  Ice packs yesterday and today, now I can get up and move around, but still can't lift Charlie into and out of the car.  Another few days....  :-)

My spot at the woods edge.  I cleared brambles, cut a path, rolled the stumps, and added some old timbers for a bench.  It's quiet, the birds sing and after rains, you can hear the stream flow.

A friend in the vegetable garden.  I read they eat slugs, snails, voles, and bugs.  So I let them be.  There were 4 today.

Comment by kathy: ky on June 17, 2017 at 3:17pm
Thomas, I read an article yesterday about paw paw and they are supposed to be easy to start from seeds.
Ky has an abundance of them so digging a two or three inch seedling works well here. Plus they are native to ky so that probably helps a lot. I've found that I get better trees and incredibly fast growth from the smallest seedlings. Transplanted a two inch redbud last year and it's over five feet tall now. But it's also native to ky. Maybe that's the key to success with trees. Stick with the ones that are native to your area.

Daniel, your going to hurt yourself but we all tend to keep doing until we over do it.
Seems to be a fact of life.
Comment by Thomas Murray on June 17, 2017 at 1:56pm

Hey all,

Thanks for all the encouragements ( I needed that) and Joan's video. I like that term 'food forest'.

 It was my son's suggestion to grow some fruit trees. Several years ago he helped me with our garden vegetable and he didn't like it much... weeds! So in order to keep my son outdoors I took up the suggestion of his fruit trees idea. I still need to get one more fruit tree.

We already started digging the hole. I made a screen to remove all the large rocks.  When Randal mentioned worms I looked back and  I don't remember digging up any worms....anywhere? Something wrong here? I dunno.....

  Speaking of nurseries, I went to three nurseries to buy to a soil testing kit but none of them carried any! So I had to order mine online. And Kathy, the nursery that had the costly paw paw, one of the gardeners there did warn me that transplanting paw paw is a risky chance. So for the price they were asking for a three footer was not worth the risk.

  I forgot which you tube this was on but according to this guy, if starting from seeds or pit from a fruit bought at a store, better go the farmers market and buy the fruits. The chance are that these fruit are locally grown and are not irradiated nor have chemicals on them which makes them viable candidates for healthy fruit trees. So to save money, we will start our seeds and pits from locally grown fruits.

Thanks for all the encouragements and suggestions.

Comment by Daniel W on June 17, 2017 at 1:13pm

Kathy, I agree with you about the price of some nursery trees.  On the other hand, I just pain $35 for a 6 foot tall blueberry bush, already producing.  It will replace one of my nonperforming and sick looking fruit trees.  We have tried many times to grow new blueberry bushes.  I don't know why they don't seem to grow well.  An old one on our property is about 10 feet tall and huge, and it produces a lot.  My guess is some are just small types, and herbivores graze small ones to death.  I do have some small ones fenced in, and seeing what they do too.

Now my back hurts.  First I hurt it picking up Charlie.  Now it's that giant blueberry tree.  I have no common sense some times.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 17, 2017 at 7:07am

Interesting video, Joan. I'm willing to try it because plums, apricots, and nectarines fail most every year, either from no pollination or "worms".

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 17, 2017 at 4:59am

Joan, I smiled while reading the story of your 2 year old great granddaughter, smiling while she helped her relatives pull slash out of the the woods.

Comment by kathy: ky on June 16, 2017 at 4:17pm
Thomas, a hundred dollars for a three foot paw paw sounds crazy. In ky we can go out and dig a seedling up. The most I've ever paid for a tree was seventy dollars for a four foot Japanese maple. That was about twelve or fourteen years ago. It thrived for two years. I lost it to disease during a long wet spring. KY is so humid anymore we are now a sub tropical climate.
Daniel, the photos are very nice. Your plant are doing very well.
We've had terrible heat and humidity but today is lovely. I'm just sitting on the front porch enjoying the breeze. I broke my small toe about a week ago and it limits any yard work. It will heal. Broken toes seem to be a theme in life :)
It could always be worse.
Comment by Joan Denoo on June 16, 2017 at 4:06pm

Randy, during my cancer treatment year, 2013, I spent the entire summer sitting in my garden, watching the squirrels, mice, birds, chipmunks nibbling away at the plants. I rather enjoyed watching the squirrels scamper up the arborvitae, biting off branches and toting them off to build their nests. They left big patches of bare spots in the shrubs, but I didn't care because they entertained me. The mice ran up the sunflowers to the very far end of branches, snipped off the huge seed heads and then scurried down to nibble on them on the ground, leaving a scattered pile of sunflower shells behind.

Strange, during my healthy seasons I would have chased them away from such activity, but they provided me many hours of pleasure as I watched their industry. 

Today's weather is a typical spring day, huge downpours of rain and hail followed by beautiful sunny weather, then another cloud passes over with more drenching rain. There is a cold breeze. 

Oh! Oh!, here comes another downpour. 

 

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