Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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Comment by Idaho Spud on June 13, 2017 at 5:18am

Sunrise, sunset.  It seems only yesterday when those ducks were small.

Comment by Daniel W on June 12, 2017 at 11:26pm

The ducks have their full adult plumage.  I think they are pretty.

Bees on a Ceonothus.  Not my bees - I gave up after the last hive swarmed or disappeared.

Blackberry starts in cages, potatoes, garlic.  There are some collard greens in there too, left of the blackberries.

Onions and more potatoes

Hot peppers in raised beds.


Comment by Daniel W on June 12, 2017 at 10:29am

Spud:  "Tip tip"  :-)

Not sure what I will do today.  I think it will be nice once it warms up.  Maybe some more mowing, and figure out better deer/rabbit protection for a blackberry I transplanted yesterday.

Fig trees could also use some protection.  While the pawpaws didn't set a single fruit, pears didn't do much more, and cherries dont exactly exploding with fruit, the fig branches are drooping to the ground with their luscious fruits.  Each year it's something different.

Maybe just walk around with camera and take photos for the blog.

Have a nice day everyone!  Randy I hope you get some rain.  Spud, I hope your avocado is just going through adjustment.  I grew some from seeds, a long time ago.  I forget whether they   were delicate or tough.  I bet you're right about the combination of stresses.  Glad your berries are doing great!

Joan, I hope you are getting some good greens in your green house!

Kathy, I hope you are getting to walk in the yard and soak in some country air, when moments allow.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2017 at 7:59am

I went to Ty Ty and tried to order a couple of Pecan trees that were going for $25 after the 75% discount, but they said $60 is the minimum order.  I don't have room for anymore trees, or even as many berry bushes that I'd have to buy.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2017 at 7:20am

Daniel, thanks for the Blackberry tip tip.

Comment by Idaho Spud on June 12, 2017 at 7:11am

Randy, good deal on those nut trees.  Let me know how they do.  

My Avocado is looking very sad.  Perhaps I was too vigorous in washing the potting soil from the roots.  Perhaps it doesn't like the soil I planted it in, that is retaining more water than I thought it would.  Perhaps it didn't like the several days of 90°F temperatures.  Perhaps a combination.

Starting 2 days ago, the temperatures are in the 40s at night, and 60s in the day.  The weather this year is more variable than usual.  Early this spring, there was 3 cycles of warm weather, then freezing weather.  That killed every Apricot blossom, so no Apricots for me this year.  It also killed the leaves of my first Asparagus plants.

However, my 2-year-old blackberry and 2-year old raspberry plants of two kinds are doing great.

Comment by Randall Smith on June 12, 2017 at 6:25am

Thanks for the "soak trees in a bucket of water before planting" tip. In my haste, I've failed to do that. I'll further describe the trees I ordered once I receive them.

90 degree temps are upon us with gale force winds. It certainly dries out the soil. I have to water flowers and veggies every day. I'm not mowing the yard, shaggy as it looks, to retain soil moisture.

Comment by Daniel W on June 11, 2017 at 10:33pm

Joan, we have had a chilly rainy week.  The day today warmed up nicely, so I'm glad for that.

I bet all that green is a beautiful sight.  I hope there aren't fires this summer or fall, but at least at the moment, the beauty is there.

I find the thermometer very helpful.  I check it all the time, for seed planting, and to compare raised beds and containers with the soil and ambient temperatures.

I learned something new this week about blackberries - the horticultural type,  not the weeds.  The growing tip should be snapped off when they are 3 or so feet tall.  That removes the inhibitory auxin signal from the growing tip, and allows branches to grow for stockier, stronger, shorter canes and much better yield.  So I went out and snapped mine off.  Only two are that far along, but it's fun to learn and experiment. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on June 11, 2017 at 10:06pm

I just received a soil thermometer through Amazon. It seems like a good expense, given the strange weather patterns. Thanks for the information on soil temperatures. 

Daniel, did you have a cold spell come through your area? We still have to wear sweaters outside. I wish Cary were here to read the weather maps for me. Guess I will have to learn how. 

The forest is as green as the hills of Ireland. It makes the fire district nervous seeing all the growing grasses and wild plant life. More green in spring foretells more fires in autumn.

Comment by Daniel W on June 11, 2017 at 8:56pm

Joan, one of these days, you'll figure out the photos!  Meanwhile, words sometimes speak more than pictures do. 

Randy that's great news from TyTy!  I wish you good luck with your tree planting!  Be sure to give them a good soak in a bucket for a few hours before planting.  They might be stressed from storage.

Definitely if the soil is cold and wet, then warm weather plants like corn and bean seeds won't grow.  Optimum soil temperature for germinating beans is 70F to 80F.  Below that, they take much longer and below 60F they might rot.  Soil temp should be 65F to 85F for sweet corn, and it will not germinate below 55F. 

I use a soil thermometer.  I think I buried the last one while digging, so I bought a new one via Amazon. 

Another factor is birds.  Birds dig up and eat, corn seeds and bean seeds.  They view your planting practices as a special bird "easter egg" hunt.  I cover the seed area with chicken wire or plastic netting that they can't dig through, until the seedlings emerge.  The old saying recommends planting 4 seeds for each one that you want:  "Four seeds in a row, one for the rook, one for the crow, one will wither and one will grow."    There is a similar saying about growing tobacco:  "Some for you, some for I, some for the devil, some for the fly."

Another saying about corn, I don't think it's true, at least around here:  "Corn should be planted when the dogwoods are in bloom and the poplar leaves are as big as squirrel ears."

Sweet corn seeds only keep a year or two.  That is because the newer varieties of sweet corn keep their sugar longer, instead of turning it into storage starches.  That's why the seeds are so wrinkly.  I decided not to keep my corn seeds more than a year.  Bean seeds last many years.

I just planted some sweet corn today, variety "Bodaceous", which I bought last winter on close out.  I realize I just said that it's better to use new seeds, but I'm learning.  I intend to plant a final crop of sweet corn in another week, a later maturing variety.


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