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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

Many topics have been discussed in the archive.  Revive a topic by adding your 2¢ or start a new topic.

Everyone likes photos of the garden, so if you like to share photos of your prize dahlia, your favorite hen, or your first tomato, go right ahead!

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GARDEN HOSE PROBLEM

Started by Dominic Florio. Last reply by Joan Denoo on Saturday. 16 Replies

Permaculture thinking and skills for youth

Started by Joan Denoo. Last reply by Joan Denoo Aug 24. 3 Replies

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Comment by Idaho Spud on March 27, 2017 at 5:26pm

Cute chickies.

Comment by Daniel W on March 27, 2017 at 3:23pm

I don't know a lot about weeds as indicators of soil quality. 

Ning got some new baby Americauna chickens.  Lots of chirping like little birds.  Oh, they ARE little birds!  :-)

I like the articles in Mother Earth News.  They usually seem pretty reliable.  Some plants can even indicate minerals such as nickel or gold.  Strong measure of skepticism is needed for those claims.  None of those in my back yard.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 25, 2017 at 4:33pm

Kathy, some people use weeds as a sign of poor or good soil. I have not developed the sensitivity to weeds to be able to make the distinction. 

If I remember correctly, Daniel wrote of that several years ago. Maybe he remembers how to distinguish soil quality through weeds.  

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 25, 2017 at 4:30pm

Kathy, Where you find black soil, it probably had farmers working it for centuries. On a family plot in North Idaho we found the homestead of an ancestor and we could pretty much trace it out because of the changes in the soil quality. He grew vegetables for the miners and the loggers of that part of Idaho. He built a huge barn where he kept his draft horses and cattle on the main dirt floor with big barn doors built as his ancestors in Germany built theirs. He built his home on top of the barn, or the 2nd floor. The warmth of the livestock helped them keep warm upstairs and he didn't have to haul so much wood upstairs. On the side of the barn where he stores his hay, they dug a well that still works. on the opposite side of the barn, where the livestock lived, he dug an outhouse. So, both well and toilet were under cover from the weather. 

When we drove into the tiny town of Emida, Idaho, we stopped at the tavern to find out where the Middleton farm was located. They gave us exact directions. The barn is somewhat of a showplace for Northern Idaho. 

Comment by kathy: ky on March 24, 2017 at 7:18pm
Wonderful clip Joan. The really odd thing about this area is I can go from hard, red clay, to wonderful rich black soil in a twelve feet span. Almost every place in western Ky is like that. Makes it twice as hard to discover what to plant and where. I've found that many annuals, like salvia and marigolds, will be perennials if I just leave them alone in the fall. And watch for new growth around the bottoms to start. Then I prune off the dead tops. I kept eight salvia alive for four summers doing that.
Blue jays are here year round. The beautiful little eastern bluebirds migrated in in Feb and started nesting. I haven't seen them since the temps dropped sharply a couple weeks ago. They come back to the same house every year and raise several nest's of babies. They're beautifully and fun to watch.
Comment by kathy: ky on March 24, 2017 at 6:53pm
Thanks Joan. Milkweed is the only thing I'm planning on adding more of. The bright orange flower kind does well up here but the Joe Pye struggles. Not enough direct sun. Or just putting them in the wrong spot. The two I transplanted last year came from a ditch that was nothing but red clay. They came back but didn't thrive. No blooms at all.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2017 at 5:12pm

Kathy, I invite you to watch a video of a homesteading family I follow who are on the nationwide tour of permaculture gardens. I think you have the red clays of Georgia, but the principles apply to clay as well as the sand of the video I am sharing. 

Increasing Property Value 25% W/ Permaculture Design

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2017 at 5:05pm

Daniel, your spring photos make me feel so good. I think I will be able to recover from my lack of spring color with your beautiful scenes. I will put up a hummingbird feeder. 

The sparrows flock to the seed feeders, and I see no blue jays yet. I did see deer tracks around the feeder, yesterday. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2017 at 5:03pm

Daniel, you are correct about syringa, it grows wild in the forest. I want to bring more into to property around the house. There are no purple ones here. I will keep my eyes open when in town next month. It is still too early here. 

I started some daylilies here several years ago for my daughter and they do fine. So does Alchemilla mollis, commonly known as lady's mantle. It propagates easily.

Geranium sylvaticum (wood cranesbill, woodland geranium) spreads nicely and is easily controlled here. It is a pretty magenta color.

Laura doesn't want me to plant any deciduous trees in the clearing because of fire risks. 

I'm at that time now, that I was last year when I yearned for spring color. With the deer, rabbits, and other wild animals, we have to fence these specimens and she doesn't like the look of wire, net, or wood fencing. Neither do I, really. I am going to gather Kinnikinnick and other specimens from the forest.  

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 24, 2017 at 4:31pm

Hostas are sprouting here too. I love them; they're my favorite perennial. Gotta get slug bait on them or they'll be goners.

 

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