Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 175
Latest Activity: on Wednesday

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 15, 2015 at 2:00pm

Spud! Yes! That is a perfect solution. You can have a very comfortable home in this type of building, you can have enough room for tool storage and supplies. If you have some cats, you can be free of mice. If you have some dogs, you will be free of coyotes or whatever prowls your grounds. 

With vines growing over, it will help to insulate from the heat. I don't know about winter protection with plants, but insulation will take care of that!

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 15, 2015 at 1:52pm

Randy, I can't think of a word for woodchip farming that starts with "Lig...."

Daniel introduced me to an author that backs up her claims with laboratory research. Her name is Linda Chalker-Scott, Ph.D, WSU editor Extension Urban Horticulturist and Associate Professor, Puyallup Research and Extension Center, Washington State University Puyallup, Washington.
Wood chip mulch: Landscape boon or bane?

There is a section of this article that addresses the concerns about using wood chips:

"Drawbacks of wood chips— mulch ado about nothing. There are a number of concerns ...."

She answered every question I had about wood chips.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 15, 2015 at 12:50pm

Joan, glad to hear you got some gardening time in and are now refreshed.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 15, 2015 at 12:46pm

Yes Joan, you are close to correct.  A cottage has always seemed like an attractive vision to me.  Practically, I would probably go for a used barn or mobile home, but what I've mostly been thinking about is a steel farm building converted into a home.  It seems like the best combination of affordable and quick & easy to assemble.  It would probably even look nice, if surrounded by green growing things, with vines climbing over it:

Comment by Randall Smith on March 15, 2015 at 7:44am

Daniel, you certainly won't have many Hoosiers refer to our state as "exotic"! I wish persimmons weren't so loaded with sugar. Good luck with your trees ( I love the hybrid Pluerry!).

Joan, what a clever idea to convert a silo into an "inn". Of course, they dot the landscape here in farm country. And yes, my farm kids are going full bore--mostly greenhouse work, planting and transplanting. The ground is too wet and cold yet.

They have wood chips hauled in from a local tree trimming outfit--all free! What's that kind of farming called--lig___ something? 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 14, 2015 at 10:00pm
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 14, 2015 at 9:38pm

I was wondering that too. Do we have anyone who remembers their high school Latin rules? Or has a Latin book? 

Comment by Daniel W on March 14, 2015 at 8:40pm


Very clever!  You are so modest!

Does the modifier go before or after the nown?  Pneuma tranquillo or Tranquillo pneuma?

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 14, 2015 at 8:22pm

Chris,  I spent three wonderful hours out in the garden, trimming and pulling and sitting. I came in too exhausted to put my tools away. I took what was supposed to be a short nap and then I was going to go outside again. I woke from my nap after dark and everything was put away. I am so lucky to have Cary. My spirit was refreshed as well. 
Thanks also for the orange peeled and greeting. I like the idea of rolling over and looking at the stars. 

Your garden will be growing things soon and filter out some of that air filled with exhaust.

Today we have a nice soft rain. The worms will love that. Cary turned the soil in two little beds I have at the entry to the garden. The ground there is almost all compost and very black. The neighbor's yard is mostly grass which she usually mows after it goes to seed. Those seeds fly onto this soil and make a lovely bed of grass that I try to keep pulled out. Except, I do like it because it catches most of the seeds and keeps them out of the garden. 

Daniel, the forsythia hasn't begun to show even a hint of color yet. Your beautiful bush give a nice welcome to the new season.  

Patricia, thank you for those two beautiful photos of flowers. Their bright colors enter the eyes and go immediately to the brain. I gat a lovely jolt of enthusiasm again. Thanks so much. 

Randy, I imagine your ground is bursting with new little green shoots and you will be busy tending them. Are your farming kids busy getting their production going?  

Spud, I have this mental image of you on a small piece of ground with a little cottage, surrounded by animals you may want, if for company, or to protect you and your plot. I see you in a recycled barn, or box car, or something unusual and perfect for you live in. Let me know if my image is anywhere close to your reality.

Daniel,  Your piece of ground must be filling up with all those new trees. I would love to walk through them as the blossoms come and go. You will surely be in a heaven far better than any of the religious kind. I wish we had a word for spirit or spiritual that isn't connected to religion.

Pneuma = breath in Latin. 

tranquillo = calm in Latin. 

Tranquillo pneuma, perhaps. No. Not clever enough.  

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 14, 2015 at 6:01pm

Never thought about asking tree trimmers if they pay to dump the chips.  I will next time.


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