Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Comment by Randall Smith on April 20, 2017 at 7:06am
I did no pruning to my new trees. Four of them look good--leafing, even some fruit blossoms! The pecan tree, however looks like the stake you mentioned, Daniel. I water it every day checking for life. Nada. I'll worry while gone for two weeks.
Comment by Idaho Spud on April 19, 2017 at 2:24pm

Thanks for all the information Daniel.  I learned a few new things, and it appears that pruning transplanted trees is not a good thing.  

Comment by Daniel W on April 19, 2017 at 10:37am
Comment by Daniel W on April 19, 2017 at 9:37am

Spud, I might regret not topping the tree, but I am following advice from the same source that recommended bare rooting it. Here is a link.  She concludes the loss of biomass is harmful, and that "There is no need to top-prune landscape plants if post-transplant irrigation is available (and all new landscapes need post-transplant irrigation!). • The only time transplanted materials should be pruned is to remove broken, dead, or diseased branches, or to make structural corrections to young trees." So that's what I did.

I was also thinking, if I did not plant the tree, it would be at the nursery continuing to grow in the container without top pruning, and if it survives there, it should survive in my yard where it gets as much care but the roots have more room to spread.

I might be wrong.

Most bare root fruit trees are mercilessly top pruned before shipping.  They look like garden stakes.  So was the largest of my new chestnut trees.  That is more for storage and shipping considerations, I think.

Last year I moved a ginkgo tree approx 12 feet tall.  I thought I got the vast majority of roots.  It did fine over the summer but I think it died last winter.  I don't know if not top-pruning it was a factor.  Some of the cold was very harsh, I think I also lost a couple of fig trees, the ones that are not as hardy.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 19, 2017 at 7:08am

Your redwood tree does look good Daniel.  It sounds like you didn't prune any branches when you planted it.  I've read literature from nurseries and other places that you should prune branches so they don't overwhelm the roots ability to supply nutrients.  What's your take on that?

Comment by Daniel W on April 17, 2017 at 11:20pm

Randy, rabbits, vokes, and slugs take their toll, and birds in the summer.  I hope to have enough for me after they take theirs!

Potatoes have all come up, yay!  Favas too.  Peas were all eaten by slugs or bugs.  Garlic is looking strong, and I weeded it all, on sunday.  onions are planted, and some radishep and greens seeds.  Still getting collards but they are starting to send up flower stalks, so the end is near :-)

Comment by Randall Smith on April 16, 2017 at 7:17am
Daniel, you have deer problems--I have rabbits. I'm watching one right now checking out my garden. Nothing's up yet, except asparagus and onions. My garden needs some rain.
After all was said and done (so far), I've found about 100 morels in my yard! I went to the woods to hunt, but found zilch. The wood's soil is too cold yet, I'm guessing.
Comment by Daniel W on April 15, 2017 at 11:39am

The sentence that states "or plants other than a taste" should read "squash or pumpkin plants other than..."  They also eat rose bushes and domestic blackberry brambles but not wild blackberry brambles.  They dont eat herbs, like mint, rosemary, lemon balm, or sage.

Comment by Daniel W on April 15, 2017 at 11:35am

There's a family of deer that often browse my yard.  Sometimes they will be chewing on a tree and I shout at them and tell them to stop.  One time I was less than 10 feet away and she wouldnt stop eating that fig tree.  They can eat an entire garden or young tree overnight.  They have no natural predators here so their numbers rise until they are too populous for their food.  They easily jump over 6 foot fences.  My biggest gardening expense is for deer cages for fruit trees and vegetable beds.  The eat appke, pear, persimmon, plum, peach, and cherry trees, and tomatoes, beans, peas to nothingness.  They dont eat potato, onion, garlic, squash or plants other than a taste.  They dont eat maple, fir, or pine trees and just nibble on linden.  They eat tulips but not daffodils, marigolds, or cosmos.

Comment by Idaho Spud on April 15, 2017 at 9:46am

Wow!  I've never seen more than one deer at a time, and never except when I walked through the woods. Even then, I think I've only seen 3 in my life.


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