Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

Sentient Biped's Garden Blog. Happy to add a different feed if there are suggestions.

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Comment by Joan Denoo on March 4, 2015 at 11:55pm

I know what you mean Randy. I cut down my fruit trees because we always a late frost that killed the blossoms and I could use my city lot for other things upon which I could rely upon. My neighbor has a Granny Smith apple that lops over my fence and I was able to get a good harvest from that last year. Her yard is all grass with that one tree. My lot has not one blade of mowable grass and the rest is into herbs, vegetables, fruit bushes. So, she can grow the apples.  
We expect another snifter of snow ... nothing to shovel, but it doesn't melt during the day, except where the sun hits it. Expecting warmer weather next week.  

The weather being so unpredictable, I don't know what to do. I guess just do the things that I would normally do and then replant or plant something different. I want as many perennials as I can get. The self-sowers give me good results.   

Randy, have you seen Daniel's new stone front sidewalk and planting and sunroom? That is an inspiration.   

Comment by Randall Smith on March 4, 2015 at 7:32am

This could be the second year in a row I'll have little or no fruit crop, esp. peaches (and relative nectarines and almonds). I've observed over the years (and it's been substantuated) that below freezing temperatures radically affect the summer crop. And this has been another horrifically cold winter.

Usually by now, I have my garden all plotted out on paper. Nada. We need to have a warm spell to get my juices flowing. This is maddening.

Comment by Daniel W on March 3, 2015 at 9:13am

Bertold - true. 

Barbara - hope you are well!

Randy - Your bees must be very happy!  My Asian persimmon is 7 foot tall now - time will tell if it has a few flowers this year.  The new addition is a "Yates" persimmon, a Dyospyros virginiana cultivar, also called "Juhl",  originally from Indiana, reported as not needing a male pollinator.  At 18 inches tall, I'm not expecting much for a long time.  Your linden probably gives many pounds of nectar.

This is info about Chinese Haw - and fruit.  I'm curious if it will bloom this year.  It's about 5 foot tall, 2 years old.  Should be similar flowers to the regular hawthorns, and I hope, of course, the bees like them.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 3, 2015 at 9:09am

Attractive Trillium Bertold.

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 3, 2015 at 8:39am

@Daniel - I'm beginning to have trepidation you're trying to transact a treacly trend transcending tradition.

Comment by Randall Smith on March 3, 2015 at 8:16am

Lovely trillium, Bertold! All I have is a sea of white.

Daniel, I have a couple of hawthorne trees, too. The squirrels like the berries. I suppose the bees do, too. With my one Linden tree, plus the persimmon and other fruit trees, bees have much to choose from.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 2, 2015 at 10:10pm

@Barbara Livingston, I haven't seen your name for a while and I hope all is well with you. I have been a bit busy, so may have missed any posts from you. 

Comment by Daniel W on March 2, 2015 at 9:33pm
That trillium is truly a triumphant treasue!

Joan my 2nd beehive is just like the first. Im now working on a third one, a different type I hope I can manage better. The new one is called a Warre hive, vertical where the others are horizontal.

They do love the hawthorns. We have a Chinese Hawthorn which I hope will have a few flowers this year, and a weedy hawthorne row by a creek. My main efforts at bee forage trees were the 4 Tilia cordata / littleleaf linden, one Tilia americana / American linden, 3 new maples, a sourwood, and the fruit trees. Sounds like I am obsessed. The American linden grew like crazy last year, and had a few flowers, so maybe more this year. The littleleaf lindens also put on some good growth but I dont know if they are ready to bloom.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 2, 2015 at 8:59pm

Daniel, did you build your second hive? I remember how pretty your first hive was but I can't remember to appearance of the second hive. When the wind blew over my Washington Hawthorn a couple of years ago, I have nothing in the garden that attracts bees like it did. I'll have to do something about that this year. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 2, 2015 at 8:55pm

Bertold, a lovelier sight I cannot imagine. 


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