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Comment by kathy: ky on March 24, 2017 at 6:53pm
Thanks Joan. Milkweed is the only thing I'm planning on adding more of. The bright orange flower kind does well up here but the Joe Pye struggles. Not enough direct sun. Or just putting them in the wrong spot. The two I transplanted last year came from a ditch that was nothing but red clay. They came back but didn't thrive. No blooms at all.
Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2017 at 5:12pm

Kathy, I invite you to watch a video of a homesteading family I follow who are on the nationwide tour of permaculture gardens. I think you have the red clays of Georgia, but the principles apply to clay as well as the sand of the video I am sharing. 

Increasing Property Value 25% W/ Permaculture Design

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2017 at 5:05pm

Daniel, your spring photos make me feel so good. I think I will be able to recover from my lack of spring color with your beautiful scenes. I will put up a hummingbird feeder. 

The sparrows flock to the seed feeders, and I see no blue jays yet. I did see deer tracks around the feeder, yesterday. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 24, 2017 at 5:03pm

Daniel, you are correct about syringa, it grows wild in the forest. I want to bring more into to property around the house. There are no purple ones here. I will keep my eyes open when in town next month. It is still too early here. 

I started some daylilies here several years ago for my daughter and they do fine. So does Alchemilla mollis, commonly known as lady's mantle. It propagates easily.

Geranium sylvaticum (wood cranesbill, woodland geranium) spreads nicely and is easily controlled here. It is a pretty magenta color.

Laura doesn't want me to plant any deciduous trees in the clearing because of fire risks. 

I'm at that time now, that I was last year when I yearned for spring color. With the deer, rabbits, and other wild animals, we have to fence these specimens and she doesn't like the look of wire, net, or wood fencing. Neither do I, really. I am going to gather Kinnikinnick and other specimens from the forest.  

Comment by Bertold Brautigan on March 24, 2017 at 4:31pm

Hostas are sprouting here too. I love them; they're my favorite perennial. Gotta get slug bait on them or they'll be goners.

Comment by kathy: ky on March 24, 2017 at 1:07pm
Daniel, beautiful flowers. My host as are just starting to come through the ground. One variety grew three inches and was taken out by an unusually late freeze.
I've never seen a hummingbird that color. We get the ones with the bright red band around the neck. They are called Anna something. Seems I'm forgetting everything I used to know :)
Rain and storms coming in again today. Yuck. We haven't had more than two days of sunshine in a row all winter. I'm ready for summer. Provided we have sunshine instead of rain. But, we will get whatever we get.

Oh, I do have three new peach trees that I started from seed out of the compost bin last year. They are about 12/14 inches high already and have new green leaves on them :)
Comment by kathy: ky on March 24, 2017 at 12:56pm
Joan, we've been zone 7 for as long as I can remember. As for planting I've gone away from annuals and stay with perennials now. Even those are a lot of work with the weeding, thinning, pruning and mulching.
Almost everything blooms several weeks to early only to be bitten off by a sudden freeze.
We've had practically no winter this year. Our temps didn't drop to the upper teens until the first week of March. Then they went back to the mid forties for a low. We're having tornadoes in the dead of winter. And to much rain. We didn't have any snow this year. Last year we had 25" in a twelve hour span.
Our summer temps are getting in the upper 90/100 plus range.
With weather like this it's hard to plan on planting anything and getting a good outcome.
Comment by Randall Smith on March 24, 2017 at 7:12am

Thanks, Daniel.

Since I couldn't find a plum tree locally, I ordered one, plus a pecan and a golgi bush. With shipping (like $28!), the three "trees" cost well over $100 (a birthday present to myself.). And unlike my storebought trees, they come bare root. I usually don't have as much luck with bare root.

I'm hoping both the pecan and plum are self pollinating, although I have a "scrub" plum in my yard and a neighbor 1/4 mile away that has two pecans.

I've had one golgi bush die several years ago, so I was hesitant to try another. If any of these trees ever produce fruit, along with my 10-15 other fruit trees, how in the world am I ever going to eat it all?!!! I guess I can give it to my farm kids to sell.

Comment by Idaho Spud on March 24, 2017 at 7:11am

Randy, I was also surprised with the size of your new trees.

Comment by Joan Denoo on March 23, 2017 at 11:50pm

Kathy, what was your USDA growing zone before the rezoning?

One thing we know for sure about climate change is that nothing is normal, everything changes and into unexpected ways. For example, the jet stream is way off its normal path. That simple fact is that everything else changes. 

Our part of the country isn't having the serious storms that other parts experience. That doesn't mean we will not have some very extreme temperature, up or down, it just means we haven't had them yet.

Given the changes in your weather patterns, what are you planting and how are they doing? 

I am really nervous to trust our new zone 5 changing to zone 6. I am still planting as though a freeze will catch us off-guard. The round in the garden is still frozen an inch or two below the surface and I will wait until the top six inches are warm enough for the planting of seeds. 

Seeds sprout in the greenhouse beautifully, but I keep a close eye on the night temperatures. 


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