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Moving an Established Fig Tree. Delayed post from Nov 2017
Thanks for the permaculture information, Joan.
I am not a purist about permaculture, but I do incorporate permaculture concepts into my life and garden and I like the philosophy. I think permaculture might be more work in some ways, which I have to consider for the future.In other ways, it is less work.
That reminds me, the chestnut trees that I planted have leafed out and are growing nicely.
Slugs took a liking to my re-purposed cement block raised beds. I have paving stones on top of the blocks, and slugs congregate on the undersides of the paving stones. These slugs are monstrous, thicker than my thumb and longer than my index finger. It turns out that ducks love eating slugs, so I go on slug hunts now, and feed them to the ducks. Permaculture?
I think the first corn seeds I planted will be a no-go. The 80s days were followed by several rainy days and soil temp dropped to 50. It's just a partial packet of seeds, not much loss.
I don't rototill but I do turn over the top layer of soil, using a shovel, and break it up using a garden rake. I don't mulch in spring, due to chill and those slugs which destroy all seedlings. I lay boards under plants, and collect slug form under the boards,, but that's not sufficient to save little seedlings. By cultivating, the soil is warmer.
Looks like most of us are not tilling.
Spud, I'm confident you will get those mice!
Randy, How are your new trees doing? My persimmons are so close to blooming. I check every day.
I just put down 5 fresh glue boards to see if that will catch it.
Ugh! I think I have another mouse loose in the house. I heard the radar dog I've got outside my bedroom bark several times last night and this morning I found a little peanut butter missing from a trap although it was not triggered. Another trap was triggered, but no mouse was in it.
I try not to root-till my garden anymore either randy. I've also concluded that it probably does more damage than good.
All good information. Thanks.
I don't roto-till my garden before planting. So the plot doesn't look all clean and fluffy. I read where tilling does more damage than good. And I usually have decent results. When weeds get out of control, I may run the tiller through the rows. That is, if I can get it started!
Permaculture is a style of life.
"Permaculture is a system of design for sustainable and ecological living by integrating plants, animals, buildings, people, and communities."
Daniel, I agree that gardening depends on so many variables, one has to be responsive to whatever element presents. I, too, had a year and half of horticulture at a Land Grant College and had to learn a very different form of gardening when I discoveed Permaculture and the use of nature and natural processes to get the kind of results I wanted. I learned a great deal by gardening with my Dad and both grandmothers. They used a lot of folk methods that seemed to work. When I have a problem with a plant, I often sit down and remember what they did. That is a great way to learn.
Over the years, I forget what I learned at college, unless it is so deeply engrained in my mind I don't realize it. But I remember, vividly, what I learned from my elders.
In some ways I wish we had life after death so that I could tell them how valuable they are to me today and how grateful I am for having them as family. I also wish I could tell them how hurtful the interpersonal relations were for me and that families can live without violence.
Communication between and within the family members now are much healthier. We manage conflict and problems much better than the previous generation.
Growing a garden using no-till methods and growing a family using interpersonal skill, result in different outcomes than using tilling methods of farming and authoritarian methods of child rearing.
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Joan, there is so much uncertainty, we can only do what we think is best. I have less faith in Land Grant College extension services than you might, but at least they are a start. My PhD work was sponsored by an Ag department at a land grant institution. They were very pro industry, pro chemical company, and pro chemical. They were anti organic and anti vegetarian. Their grant moneys came from ag industry corporations, and I bet that is true more now than then. But I imagine they are more reliable than many sources.
If you can get your hands on some, I imagine the starter mix is better than compost for starting seeds. Also, what is the temperature? A lot of them like it warm. I know you are very experienced in that, so I doubt I'm saying anything new.
You are right I work hard in the garden. I don't know why I do that. When I was a little boy, I was gardening when other kids were playing. My first grade school science fair project was plant propagation. I remember blushing when I put on my poster that plants could be propagated sexually and asexually, because I was Baptist and the word "sexual" was verboten.
It could be the old seeds. I had some that didn't come up well. Peppers and Tomatoes all germinated nicely. Only about 10% of the four o'clocks seeds germinated.
Kathy, having grown children presents blessings and curses! Even though my twins were born 7 minutes apart, it as though they are 7 years. My daughter takes after her Dad, my son after me, and my adopted son had a stubborn streak like no one I know. All three gardened with me and didn't like it; too much hard work. Now that I am older, it is too hard for me, as well. I want every seed to count and grow to its full potential, whether child or plant.
Daniel amazes me with all the hard gardening he does. His photos jump right off the page as a plant nurtured by him.
Do you have any pets? Do they "Help" you garden?
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