Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

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Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Daniel W on February 5, 2015 at 11:08pm
Barbara, that's really all my blog is. Im just very obsessive compulsive about it.

We are still a couple of months away from trees leafing out. But daffodils are growing.
Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 5, 2015 at 10:21pm

Ahhh, progress!  Both trees and all berry bushes have many new buds and leaves in just a couple of weeks. I'm taking that to mean they are alive and growing. I feel like I should start a 'baby book' to track their progress. :) 

Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 5, 2015 at 7:56am

Wow, another learning example for me - different sizes, shapes and colors because they are hybrid! And I thought they just woldn't germinate.  Well, that should be fun! And if I keep saving seeds and planting them will I eventually arrive at a stable variety, weird that it may be? (I never finished the book on seed saving (';') )

I prefer sweet potato pie over pumpkin - have never tried other squash as a pie. Butternut squash baked and drizzled with a bit of honey is like having a veggie and desert combined. :) 

Since you produced so many how do you store them? In sand?

Comment by Randall Smith on February 5, 2015 at 7:40am

Did I mention that I made a squash (acorn) pie the other day? I had a bumper crop of squashes (a variety), and can't eat them fast enough. For some reason I'm not a pumpkin pie fan, so I make either sweet potato or squash pies--although this was my first attempt at the latter.

I've planted seeds I've saved from squash. The results can be spectacular--or a total failure. By the former, I mean squash can come out in all sizes, shapes, and colors. Hybrids are crazy!

Comment by Barbara Livingston on February 4, 2015 at 9:19am

Daniel, thanks for the pics and all the good information.

Randall, (':') definitely not a fanatic here. lol  a tad OCD, perfectionist, worried about 'getting it right', afraid they won't grow and I'll be branded a 'failure' - all those things. Then after first cup of coffee this morning I stood looking and my plantings sitting under light on my kitchen counter and realized - well, hell if they don't grow I'll just plant some more outside in the dirt - and I'll keep planting until I find something that grows.  Easy peasey! Frees up some time from worrying that I can spend reading a gardening book since it's too wet and cold to do anything outside.

Cenek, I remembered I saved butternut and acorn squash seeds and put in fridge for a month - they are part of the seeds I planted. Will be interesting to see if they at least germinate as they are probably hybrids or at least treated with something - originally from Mexico. If they do germinate inside, I'm also going to plant some directly into the soil.  Love those squashes!

Comment by Randall Smith on February 4, 2015 at 7:46am

Oh you "fanatics"! Such complicated set-ups, Daniel!  I'm way too lazy to do all that. I've recently failed at trying to start radishes. They sprouted, then died. Every year I try to start early and fail. I say "never more". I'll just wait 'til April.

Comment by Idaho Spud on February 3, 2015 at 12:53pm

My county extension agent said most plants need less than 8 hours darkness, so grow-lights can be left on for 16 hours.  I forgot why he said you might want to do that, but I think it would make the plants grow faster and be healthier.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 10:38am

Last comment on the indoor light growing - this is my setup.  It's a mess now because all I am growing is some fig cuttings.  Seed starting is a month or two away.

I have the lights on timers, 12 hours on / 12 hours off.

The side fixtures are also fluorescent desk lamps.  I had them sitting around, so added for the taller plants.

The lights are held on with bungee straps.   I have also used string, which works almost as well.

The stand is a wine rack / serving stand.  I have also used a similar looking pie stand, same idea.  Estate sales and goodwill can be good sources sometimes for these, or similar.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 10:21am

Internet is working now.  Here is the link on the CFL light project.  I liked the result a lot.  I added aluminum foil to the ends, to serve as reflectors.

As I recall, the tube lights cost a little less.  But - those did not have a reflector, so I used aluminum foil and taped it around my plant stand.  Kind of messy and ugly, but it worked.

Comment by Daniel W on February 3, 2015 at 9:49am
On grow lights - I cant link right now because my internet is down. If you go to my blog, go to the index on right and find "light gardening", click on that - that is how I do it.

I have 2 setups. One uses CFL lights - the daylight type. My other setup is just 2 fluorescent fixtures, I think for under cabinet kitchen lights, around 12 or 14 watt. Again daylight spectrum. Both work very well for me, seedlings snd young plants.

They do not have to be commercial Groew Lights. The daylight spectrum works great for me and cost me much less.

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