Godless in the garden


Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees!  


Welcome  backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, beekeepers & composters!

Location: Planet Earth
Members: 179
Latest Activity: Jan 8

Welcome to Eden!

If you like to dig in the dirt, plant & prune, grow food & flowers, or sit and watch as someone else does your landscaping, you'll find something here to discuss!

Selected topics, in sort of alphabetical order:
Aging.  Gardening with an older body.
bees.  insectary.  insectsbee gardening. Beneficial insects.  insects drive evolution

Compost.  herecontaminated compost.

Backyard Chickens here. here. here. here.

Edible yard.  here  urban farmfront yards.
Growing Fruits


Fragrance and Scenthere.
Fruit growing.  in a small space, by backyard orchard culture.
Frugal gardening.  labels.

Gardening for future generations.  also permaculture, trees, historic varieties, soil

Hegelkultur here, here, here

Heritage and historic varieties.   heresources

locally grown plants to prevent blight transmission here.

Moon Phase Widget here. Moon phase topic here.

PeppersHot peppers.

Permaculture MollisonFalk  Liu, Joan's IntroTransformation in 90 days, Perm Principles at work. Food forest, Holzer

Potatoes.  here.

Rooftop gardening.  here

Seed starting. starting spring crops.

Scientific Gardening.   The Informed Gardener.  The truth about garden remedies.

Soil and soil building - healthy soil microbes, mycelium, dirt is everything, soil analysissoil pH.


Tomatoes.  Myths and truths

Trees.  Tree tunnels.  Ancient tree planting. Plant commemorative trees

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Comment by Joan Denoo on August 25, 2015 at 11:20pm

The nearest fire to my Spring Valley Road home is about 25 miles away; the smoke and air quality is very bad because we are surrounded by fires in Spokane and Newport. I see that Portland/Vancouver has tough breathing days as well.

New lightning storms forecast for this weekend. Not much sign of rain. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on August 25, 2015 at 11:04pm

Michelle just brought home her first flock of chickens. She is busy securing the fencing for the little-feathered friends who find ways out the tiniest holes. She thought she was all ready for their arrival. I shared your portable chicken tractor with her and her five kids will be delighted to have the chicks take over some of the gardening chores. 

Comment by Daniel W on August 25, 2015 at 9:52pm

Or use a portable chicken tractor to put them to work.

Comment by Daniel W on August 25, 2015 at 9:51pm

Put your chickens to work.

I should do that.

Comment by Randall Smith on August 23, 2015 at 7:33am

Joan, I dread the day I'll have to move. Hopefully, that day will never come. Best of luck in finishing up your move. Around here, it would be coyotes that might get a small dog. I hear them howling at night. Do you have any fires near you?

Comment by Plinius on August 23, 2015 at 2:15am

Move with the times, Joan! You can do that!

Comment by Daniel W on August 22, 2015 at 10:50pm
Joan, I dont envy the chor of moving! It willcsll on your resources and organisational skills. I guess take one day at a time.

Poor Pekihuahua - or whatever it's called! Typical for a small dog. We had neighbors with minuature Dobermans - probably the same size. They would chase a bear, Im sure.
Comment by Joan Denoo on August 22, 2015 at 2:31pm

Hi, gardeners. Just checking in after a couple of weeks of hefty work thinning out the forest to 100 feet of the house. The soil is bone dry, not at all like a peat bog substance of my Spokane home. The mosses fell off the trees joining the moss on the ground. It is all dried out

The deer, cougars, and bears come down into the valleys because of the lack of food and water higher up on the usually lush slopes. We keep the children within sight and don't let the Chihuahua/Pekingese dog out by himself. He is such a brave/foolish little thing, he will take on any sized dog or beast. Came home one day after being mauled by a fanged-clawed animal. Another time he came back with an eye hanging out on his cheek. That was a terrible experience for the small children even as it was a good lesson to not run through the woods pel-mel without paying attention to where they are going. The most recent injury to our little Spartan is a fang bite in his throat from a friend's Rottweiler.  

I'm in Spokane until Thursday when I return to my new Spring Valley Road home. I'm getting more boxes for books and dishes. I don't like to move. I used to do it for 20 years while I was a military dependent. Hated it then, despise it now. 


Comment by Daniel W on August 22, 2015 at 11:34am

With most days in the 90s it seems like a strange time to plant seeds.  I am experimenting with summer planting for some fall crops.  May or may not work.

Most are in barrels or large containers.  Over the past few weeks, I planted some bean varieties.  They are growing but need watering every day.  I want them more to have seeds for next year, than for fresh beans.  It may be too late to get viable seeds in the fall, but no harm in trying.

The barrels are easy to maintain and water.  These are good for someone who needs a few meals, not a big crop.  They are much easier than gardening in the ground.

I think we'll have fresh Swiss Chard ready to eat in another 2 or 3 weeks  Grows very fast.  The Asian greens were planted last week and are germinating.  Those are in a mix containing Chinese cabbage, arugula, several types of mustard greens, mizuna, and Japanese spinach.   I have been planting cilantro every couple of weeks to get a longer crop.  The Egyptian Walking Onions are for scallions.   I thought I lost my clone, but they were only dormant.  Still digging up from the old raised bed and planting, part for scallions and part to maintain my 15 year old clone.  I went from thinking they were all dead, to now I have more than I can plant.  Spinach is 2 inches tall now.  Today I planted turnip seeds - ready in 50 days - and kohlrabi seeds - ready in 60 days.

The containers are really good for a tired gardener, or someone who needs more accessible gardening than in-ground.  A few of mine were in the backyard and I forgot them, soil had settled and weeds grew.  I pulled what I could and buried the rest with about 4 inches of fresh potting soil  Very easy.  They do need watering daily in the hot weather.

My next plant for containers is either make cubic boxes with hollow sides to insulate from sun, or just find barrels that someone doesn't want.  Sometimes Fred Meyer  has 1/2 barrels on sale for under half price in the early winter.

Comment by Idaho Spud on August 22, 2015 at 9:43am

Welcome Eric.


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