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Comment by Joan Denoo on May 12, 2017 at 11:41am

We have several barn cats here in the forest and they seem to control the mice problems; with one exception, we found mouse dropping under the sink and Larry set a Victor wooden trap, just like the ones my grandmother used when I was a child. He caught two mice and we have seen no signs of return. 

Comment by Joan Denoo on May 12, 2017 at 11:33am

Kathy, I have never dealt with red ants, but I had huge ants that came in with a truckload of wood chips. I spread Diatomaceous Earth around the pile of chips and everywhere I saw one in my garden. That was several years ago and didn't have problems after that. I always buy food grade because I use it in my kitchen and basement and on pets or wherever I find pests. 

"Diatomaceous Earth (often referred to as "DE") is an off white talc-like powder that is the fossilized remains of marine phytoplankton. When sprinkled on a bug that has an exoskeleton (such as bed bugs, ants or fleas) it compromises their waxy coating so that their innards turn into teeny tiny bug jerky."

Diatomaceous Earth food grade

There is another form of this powder that is not food grade and I have no idea if it is stronger, but it may be. 

Comment by kathy: ky on May 12, 2017 at 11:16am
They're Carpenter ants and red ants. I'm about to use dynamite :)
Comment by kathy: ky on May 12, 2017 at 11:15am
Daniel, what kind of ant baits do you use? I've used Borax detergent vinegar, bleach mixed with water and soap. Everything I've ever read about but the ants just keep multiplying. Most are scatter all over the two acres but I know if they are there they are bound to be in the house. Or under it.
Any suitable are welcome
Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2017 at 7:23am

Those traps I use do startle me a little when they go off, but not much.  Perhaps I've gotten used to them.  They don't startle me as much as the pressure packed cylinders containing dinner rolls, when hitting them on the edge of something to pop them open. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 12, 2017 at 7:18am

Well, I was wrong.  It appears you country folks have many more critters in your houses than I do.  It makes sense.  If you have more outside, more will get in.

Comment by Randall Smith on May 12, 2017 at 7:11am

Spud: Yes, those are the Intruder traps I use. So easy and effective. Setting those Victors always scared me if they went off!

Speaking of possums (Daniel), I saw one amble across my yard yest. And a month or so ago, the odor of a dead one in my garage led to the discovery of a possum in one of my rain barrels. He got in and couldn't get out. By the way, they love persimmons. So be on the watch.

Comment by Daniel W on May 11, 2017 at 10:03am

Randy and Spud, mice and ants are part of my country living too.  I hate to admit it, but I gave in and started using poisoned baits in containers that the mouse has to enter through a maze, so other animals can't get it.  I hate doing that because I hope the mouse doesn't leave a poisoned corpse that might harm predators, but my place was full of mice.  I wound up burning a cheap chest of drawers that was filled with mouse nest and feces.  My pantry has food on stainless steel shelves, that I hope mice can't reach but I still use the baits.  We have several fat feral cats that prowl my 2 acres, and the neighbors properties, maybe too many.  I put out a little food for them.  Yesterday I forgot the door was open, and came into the house to discover a cat running around.  I also but up a big nesting box for barn owls, but so far no occupants.  I hear them hooting sometimes.  With rabbits, moles, voles, mice, I think there is a lot of potential food for predators.  Last week I was raking through and flattening the piles of blackberry brambles to help them degrade faster, and a possum emerged.  I've used ant baits too.  They seem less toxic because they are so much smaller, and they work very well.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 11, 2017 at 8:42am

Randy, your story of mice eating your sweet potatoes reminded me:  When I first decided mice were in the house, I started checking all my Idaho Russets and Yukon gold potatoes that I store in a dark corner of my basement on the cement floor.  Not one little nibble has been taken out of any of them.  I guess mice like seeds and sweet things, not starchy potatoes.

Comment by Idaho Spud on May 11, 2017 at 8:21am

Here are the Tomcat traps that I had good results with.  I think the sensitivity is due to the plastic holding the wire having less friction than a metal piece holding the wire, like the Victor ones have.  By the way, while looking on Amazon just now, I found some Victor traps that have the plastic, but they have a lower rating than the Tomcats.


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