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Godless in the garden

Welcome to gardeners, growers of veggies, fruits, flowers, and trees, backyard hen enthusiasts, worm farmers, & composters!

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If you like to dig in the dirt, grow flowers, putter around the yard, dig in the kitchen garden, raise backyard hens, or just like daydreaming about the garden, this is the place.

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Comment by Daniel W on November 21, 2016 at 1:56pm

Spud, at a gas station on my street, there are about 10 ginkgo trees.  A couple are near street lights.  The parts of those trees near the streetlights have green leaves when the rest are yellow or gone.  Those trees seen to do OK in this relatively mild climate.

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 20, 2016 at 11:53am

Daniel, thanks for pointing to  "A Way to Garden" site.  I've read quite a few interesting articles, and intend to read all of them.

The one that interested me the most was the one about street lights harming trees.   She said that powerful street lights made trees think that it was not time to collect the nutrients from the leaves, but kept them green and growing.  The leaves would then freeze before the tree could save the nutrients.  She didn't think it would hurt healthy trees, but ones that were already under stress could be harmed.  

My extension agent said the lights are not bright enough to cause harm, but that article had a picture that supports her contention that it does:

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 20, 2016 at 12:40am

Oh good! I am glad you tried and liked the turnip recipes. I would imagine Ning would have had turnips in China, they are so very nourishing, if they can be tamed. 

The sunchokes sounded good. I will get some for next year's gardens. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 19, 2016 at 8:40pm

Joan, I will share if I do.  I intend to,  Ning also does stir fry with them in the mix. 

I did have slices in salad, those were good.

The surprise is I shreeded sunchokes using my potato shredder, and made hash browns with them.  They were great, nice texture and interesting, good flavor.  A little finer than potatoes, but still very good.  I intend to grow much more next year.  there is also a batch still in the ground.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 19, 2016 at 8:15pm

Daniel, let me know if you like any of the turnip recipes. I think we ate so many because I was little at the end of the Depression, we were poor, turnips were easy to grow, and we had some Irish ancestry. 

Comment by Daniel W on November 19, 2016 at 8:04pm

Joan, that's funny.  Yes it should have read Dept of Conservation.

Today I didn't do anything much outside or inside.  We did harvest some more turnips, Chinese radishes, and collard greens.

Comment by Joan Denoo on November 19, 2016 at 7:42pm

Daniel, thanks for the Dave Mallett melody. I thought it was an ancient Irish tune. Mallett wrote it and it turns up in many folk singers songs. I hear the echo of John Denver's voice in his songs. 

Your description of planting trees from Conservation sources fits my experience, jump on a shovel forcing it into the ground, push the shovel handle away from you and insert the tree root, stomp on the mound and move to the next place for a thrust of the shovel. We did whole hillsides that way. 

I suspect you spell check intervened in your "conversation". I have to check mine all the time or a crazy word sits inside a sentence in which it makes no sense. 

Comment by Idaho Spud on November 19, 2016 at 12:58pm

I like the garden song, except where he asks someone to bless these seeds and prays.

I have a DVD where John Denver sings the song while the garden plants are  animated.  It's on the Muppet Show.

Comment by Daniel W on November 19, 2016 at 10:45am

Spud,here is a blog with more information about the method and the author of the books.  I used to think I knew how to plant trees.  I  the past 5 years or so, that changed completely.  Fortunately, I did remove circling roots from the shade trees I planted 4 years ago, but not as thorough as now.

On my family''s farm in MIssouri, we got bundles of pine trees from the state dept of conversation to plant in the heavily eroded farm land.  They instructed us to just cut into the soil with a shovel, stick the tree roots into the hole, then stomp on the soil to firm it.  Despite being a drastic rough method, about half survived and grew over the years into a pine forest.  Those trees were bare root  about 18 inches tall, so not what we're talking about here.

Joan, I love that Louis Armstrong piece!  I'll add this one

Randy, you probably thought of this, but can you put in some raised beds and bring in more acidic soil for the blueberries? I have them, my soil is very acidic, but if Im not diligent about protection the deer eat the bushes.

Spud, our coldest winter ever got down to about 9, which killed off my Eucalyptus and some cacti. The bamboos survived. We have timber bamboo, and a more colorful pole bamboo Phylostachys aureosulcata. Chickes like exploring in the thicket.  We use it a lot for poles. I want to do other projects but I don't know what.

Comment by Randall Smith on November 19, 2016 at 7:56am

Getting my garden "winterized" by spreading compost, pine needles, and leaves all over. Since the soil is highly alkaline, needles add acid. Little wonder I can't seem to grow blueberry bushes. I don't really have an erosion problem, but the leaf covering does protect the soil. Earthworms like it, too.

 

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